Menu toggle

Building a 400bhp+ 2.5 ltr 944 Turbo

Waylander said:
So I can assume you wont be bringing this car to the next coffee meet at South Mimms then, but I was tinking of changing the venue to the dehaviland museum anyway........
Unlikely...I am actually hoping that in doing this myself gets the car painted quicker, we shall see. BTW, did the carpet sections change from models? I seem to recall Southbound telling me many moons ago that there was a difference, perhaps early cars having more separate panels than later cars, the change just one of many to save money. I need to replace my front driver's carpet and from what I can see it's different to some that I see on eBay. It looks to me that the front section is in two or more parts, a join down the middle? I see two types on eBay but that could just be that the seller has cut the carpet in two? Mine has a join at the gear stick and I assume this continues under the heater core unit?

Any info you have would be much appreciated.

Pete

 
Who painted the car in 2000 Pete? Couldn't a detailer wet sand etc the paintwork, without resorting to a full blown glass out repaint?

 
blade7 said:
Who painted the car in 2020 Pete? Couldn't a detailer wet sand etc the paintwork, without resorting to a full blown glass out repaint?
2020?..... IIRC the car had a full respray in 2000 and was painted by Chris at 911 Bodyshop Wembley. The paint is beyond detailing. .it's been polished so much that the primer shows through in places.

 
blade7 said:
Sounds like a dodgy paint job, or someone doesn't know how to polish a car.
Nah....Chris is very good and considering the paint has now been on the car for over 20 years its done pretty well. Much better thsn the original paint which was only 14 years old when I had the car repainted. As for polishing, I already said I polished the car too often, we are talking during summer months at least weekly, sometimes many more.

 
PSH said:
As for polishing, I already said I polished the car too often, we are talking during summer months at least weekly, sometimes many more.
Sad. Get it lacquered next time ffs.

 
work continues.... the first picture for today shows the dash cracks after they have been opened up ready for filling, I used a sharp knife to do this, simple and quick.

8bjHWOp.jpg


here is the end result after filling, I have used E-Tech ER00101-ET Plastic car Bumper and Trim Putty for this job, not cheap but a very good product, I'll use a cheaper type for the glovebox lid which needs much more filler but as it's not a complicated shape should be fine.

BFzz67N.jpg


The centre console required a fair amount of filler and shaping, here it is nearly ready to be covered. I kept test fitting the switch plate and arm rest to see that the shape was good.

YaZXF6o.jpg


Here is the console with the leather kit laid on top and the armrest which has been covered. It's not perfect but good enough and a good starting place to get used to the material and glue. If I was to do it again I'd try to force the stitching wider at the front, other than that it's not too bad.

XVsKUFA.jpg


This is the glove box lid, needless to say there's going to be a fair bit of sculpting involved in getting this ready for covering.

7aiL36s.jpg


To finish off today's update, the replacement heater matrix has now been tested and is ready for fitting back into the car.

Cg7FZMG.jpg


Pete

[/h1]
 
Today has been very productive, I have now fitted new open-cell foam to the heater box and covered the centre console in leather.

The old foam was barely there, most of it had rotted away, this is the area that has been cleaned prior to fitting new foam.

rerQ8l4.jpg


and with the new foam fitted, note that I haven't used the OEM part, just a reel of suitable foam was cut up to seal this area.

RSsxFlY.jpg


And here's the centre console, not perfect but then I'm never happy with my own work...:) I have laid the armrest and radio fascia in position to show they both fit.

V3iiLE4.jpg


Lesson's learnt, don't use brush-on contact adhesive, much better to use a spray and before removing the dash make sure the upper vent is closed. You can see in the pictures that I didn't do this and thus it was left open, it just made getting the dash out a little tougher. Alas with all the wires hanging out I didn't want to chance reconnecting the battery just to close a vent.

Pete

 
Looking good, how hard would it be to carve some new foam for the glove box lid? does the filler dry hard?

Tony

 
Not that hsrd Tony, I've done plenty of foam carving in my time. If I still had some foam left I would use it. The filler does dry hard but it's very flexible, I've not used this stuff before but am very impressed with its properties. Sanding is very easy, if I was to pick fault it would be the cost vs quantity and it's curing time. You don't get much working time with this stuff.

Pete

 
one for martin perhaps.... does anyone know what the cable is seen in the middle of the vent going towards the front? I'm wondering if this is something that I need to look at before putting everything back?

Pete

 
Hi Pete, I've just noticed this thread is nearly 9 years old! Nice to see that that you are still around with your original '86. Very impressive to see the level of detail covered by your restoration. With 944 Turbo values seemingly ever appreciating, it is evidently a good investment. I'll look back through the thread to see what mods you've made to the engine. Look forward to reading about the end result. All the best. Regards,

Andrew PS. My original 422bhp 944 Turbo 2.8 Stroker (G82 PWV, sold in Apr 2004) is still with John D in Ireland I believe and the last one (H678 NJB, sold in Dec 2009) - I've not heard/read about since I sold it.

 
Hi Andrew, long time no see, yes I still have the old girl, currently working on the interior and hoping that the car gets a full respray soon, this will be the second during my ownership. The rebuilt engine has been running for 6 years now so I guess I must have got the rebuild at least half right...:)

regards

Pete

 
PSH said:
one for martin perhaps.... does anyone know what the cable is seen in the middle of the vent going towards the front? I'm wondering if this is something that I need to look at before putting everything back?

Pete
It's the temp sensor for the HVAC in the mixing chamber. There should be a thermistor on the end of it and it is probably shot if never been changed.

 
Thsnks Rob...

Does it just pull out to change the sensor or is it reached from the engine bay?

 
today I finished covering the dashboard, again it's not perfect bad not too bad either, it's definately a case of learn on the job.

One thing to point out, there's a metal trim around the top of the dash where it meets the windsceen. It was clear to me that once the leather was glued on that it was unlikely that the trim would fit again. So I cut away the foam packing that was bonded to the lip that the trim slide onto. The first picture shows the offending part being cut away using a new scalpel blade. I forgot to take a picture of this area once the trim was fitted, I'll try to remember to do this later.

oZGJY5Z.jpg


Here's the front of the dash, not bad if i say so myself. The leather needs working a little and being full of compound curves isn't the easiest shape to cover. I first plotted out the cover pegged to the dash to get an idea of how much stretch needed to be applied, a resonab;e amount as it happens. Due to the seams on the ends i started with those, the passengers side being the first step as it's a small piece and it gave me a feel for the job in hand. The binnacle has a seam all the way around it, this wasn't an easy job as the material needed stretching a little, I have tried to keep the seam equal but it's out of place a little on the end curves, again needing to stretch the material while trying to keep it in it's correct position wasn't easy, perhaps an easier task with two sets of hands? It looks ok though and i'm happy with it. The other thing to bear in mind here is to keep the seams straight, that would stand out like a sore thumb if they sat at an angle.

The various bits of trim seen have just been laid in place to ensure they still fit, nothing has been screwed home here.

e0bT6WA.jpg


I'm close to putting things back, need to pick up those seals and clips for the matrix heater pipes from my son first., Othe points to note, i have cut out the vent slits and am awaiting delivery of some plastic push in vents to finish this area off, once they arrive I'll take a picture to show them, I think that they are made by the same company who does the leather kits? I have also ordered some carpet dye, for now i'm going to spray the drivers well carpet to give it back its colour, I will change this section of carpet when something suitable turns up on eBay, the current offerings don't appeal. Leather jobs left to do are the glove box, still waiting for the filler adn the gear gaitor which will be fitted when everything has been put back.

I have one piece of leather left over, this is a spare centre console kit, when I first bought this i got the wrong one, well actually both types are identical but this kit didn't have the extra arm rest and thus is now supplus to requirements. If anyone is interested give me a shout, the kit today is £189.99 with another £48 for the armrest, no reasonable offer refused, if no interest here i'll put it on ebay. When I bought mine the armrest wasn't available as a seperate kit, if it had been I'd only have ordered that instead of an entire new kit with armrest.

Here's a picture of the kit for anyone who may be interested, it is as good as new.

7lkakXS.jpg


More details soon...:)

Pete

 
PSH said:
Thsnks Rob...

Does it just pull out to change the sensor or is it reached from the engine bay?

The sensor should be plugged into the end of the cable and sits right behind the vent, if there isn't one there maybe that was part of your erratic heat situation?



 
Agreed it should just pull off. As said this can cause erratic heating. It is usually the one external at the blower intake though as it has a harder life. If I remember they are silly money so I found some suitable characteristic thermistors on RS for pence and soldered them in as replacements.

 
Thanks, Paul and Rob, the one in the engine bay has already been changed, I didn't realise that there was one here too. I called my son and he has a number of spares leftover from when he did the engine bay last year. I should have them with me tomorrow along with the seals and clips for the matrix heater pipework. Right now I am reinstalling the rear interior, tomorrow I'll start refitting the front once I have these parts.

Cheers

Pete

 

Posts made and opinions expressed are those of the individual forum members

Use of the Forum is subject to the Terms and Conditions

Disclaimer

The opinions expressed on this site are not necessarily those of the Club, who shall have no liability in respect of them or the accuracy of the content. The Club assumes no responsibility for any effects arising from errors or omissions.

Porsche Club Great Britain gives no warranties, guarantees or assurances and makes no representations or recommendations regarding any goods or services advertised on this site. It is the responsibility of visitors to satisfy themselves that goods and/or services supplied by any advertiser are bona fide and in no instance can the Porsche Club Great Britain be held responsible.

When responding to advertisements please ensure that you satisfy yourself of any applicable call charges on numbers not prefixed by usual "landline" STD Codes. Information can be obtained from the operator or the white pages. Before giving out ANY information regarding cars, or any other items for sale, please satisfy yourself that any potential purchaser is bona fide.

Directors of the Board of Porsche Club GB, Club Office Staff, Register Secretaries and Regional Organisers are often requested by Club members to provide information on matters connected with their cars and other matters referred to in the Club Rules. Such information, advice and assistance provided by such persons is given in good faith and is based on the personal experience and knowledge of the individual concerned.

Neither Porsche Club GB, nor any of the aforementioned, shall be under any liability in respect of any such information, advice or assistance given to members. Members are advised to consult qualified specialists for information, advice and assistance on matters connected with their cars at all times.

Back
Top