PSH
PCGB Member
Nothing wrong with the boost...
Building a 400bhp+ 2.5 ltr 944 Turbo
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Always worth a check to ensure fueling is safe too - as well as a nice curve to frame on the workshop wallAnd there I was expecting to be the first person to comment that to avoid stone chips a dyno would be a good place to run it . . . . . beaten by Ken
So, no fast driving, no daily driving - only car shows and meets, where one of the questions for a modified car will ALWAYS be "So, how much power does it have now?" I really can't understand why you don't stick it on a dyno for 3 power runs to see what it makes after all the extensive work you've done on the engine
Tony
PSH
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I hear what you're saying Tony and the old me that you know so well would agree with you. These things aren't important now, I'm not overly concerned about the fueling, the AFR is always where I expect it to be depending on load and not forgetting that the engine has proven itself now with more than 25k miles covered, some of which have been heavy driving. Now and then the old me does escape you know...
Pete
Diver944
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Wow, looking nice Pete 
You won't be able to stop just looking at it when it's back on the driveway all fully reassembled. Ceramic coatings are definitely the best protection to keep it looking smart and repel any dirt and rainfall. It's only a problem if it's not 100% removed before painting over. It repels paint just as good as it repels water so can cause nightmares if the painter isn't prewarned and doesn't prep the panel properly. Hopefully you'll never ever need it painting again so this point is totally moot.
You won't be able to stop just looking at it when it's back on the driveway all fully reassembled. Ceramic coatings are definitely the best protection to keep it looking smart and repel any dirt and rainfall. It's only a problem if it's not 100% removed before painting over. It repels paint just as good as it repels water so can cause nightmares if the painter isn't prewarned and doesn't prep the panel properly. Hopefully you'll never ever need it painting again so this point is totally moot.
PSH
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Cheers PaulWow, looking nice Pete
I do plan to give it a ceramic coating, not sure which though as there's so out there.
BTW I keep tabs on your adventures up North, looks like you and Debs are having fun in the Lakes...
Pete
PSH
PCGB Member
Not really...I was decisive about not having a ceramic top coat. But, I am in favour of using a ceramic type sealant, I'm still researching as to which brand to use...You were indecisive, now you're not so sure.
Pete
The confusion comes from the Fact that you’re talking about the same thing really.Not really...I was decisive about not having a ceramic top coat. But, I am in favour of using a ceramic type sealant, I'm still researching as to which brand to use...
Pete
A good friend runs this place https://www.facebook.com/apsdetailingltd/ and is one of Gtechniq’s top UK accredited detailers, you either get a “Ceramic” product like the Meguiars Ceramic hybrid spray wax that has a bit of SiO2 wazzed in there for marketing purposes, or a proper ceramic sealant like Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light that is a “prosumer” product (you do need a warm garage to apply it at this time of year though).
The issues with any decent ceramic sealant is when it’s on it’s on - so you need to make sure that the condition of the paint is where you want it first (although it sounds like this won’t be an issue). It either needs machine polishing or possibly wet sanding to remove prior to paint in the future (as mentioned by Paul) but again you’d hope that won‘t be necessary.
Personally, I’d leave it a few months to finish completely curing/gassing off and then drop it in at a detailer to get a final refinement if needed and Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra applied - the peace of mind of it being done professionally and with a warranty is probably more value to you than the money you’d save doing it yourself/getting your son to do it.
Diver944
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Most of the cost is the labour with these things, the cost of the product is minimal, it's the time to apply it, allow to dry and then buff off. As we are all avid polishers (mostly ) it's easily within our remit if you are starting with an already excellent finish such as Pete will be.
In my former life we used to sell one of the cheaper products. It cost us £30 to buy, took a couple hours max to apply, dry and buff off and we charged a few hundred for very small cars. I used it on the S2 before we stocked it and it definitely lasted 3 years before the beading stopped and I reapplied some more. Previously I used to Zymol wax the car every couple of months as it was a daily driver, used in all weathers 10k+ a year but I loved it looking shiny like all the garage queens
) it's easily within our remit if you are starting with an already excellent finish such as Pete will be.In my former life we used to sell one of the cheaper products. It cost us £30 to buy, took a couple hours max to apply, dry and buff off and we charged a few hundred for very small cars. I used it on the S2 before we stocked it and it definitely lasted 3 years before the beading stopped and I reapplied some more. Previously I used to Zymol wax the car every couple of months as it was a daily driver, used in all weathers 10k+ a year but I loved it looking shiny like all the garage queens
PSH
PCGB Member
Hi Paul
How good is this stuff really...do you really not need to polish as normal. I mean, I used to polish the car every week, so much so that in places I had worn the paint through... I have always enjoyed the process but have to admit to myself that today my body, just can't do it anymore.
Pete
How good is this stuff really...do you really not need to polish as normal. I mean, I used to polish the car every week, so much so that in places I had worn the paint through..
. I have always enjoyed the process but have to admit to myself that today my body, just can't do it anymore.Pete
Hi Paul
How good is this stuff really...do you really not need to polish as normal. I mean, I used to polish the car every week, so much so that in places I had worn the paint through..
Pete
It’s as good as they make out.
You polish the paintwork and are getting it the best it can be - think of that as like putting a marzipan layer on a Xmas cake. You then apply the Ceramic sealant on top (Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light would be my DIY recommendation) and think of that as the Royal Icing layer on the cake. You wouldn’t put marzipan on top of royal icing would you? So you just leave it alone as any abrasive polishing would be wearing away the CSL layer. If you have the desperate need to “top it up” when bored then a couple of spritzes of C2V3 and a quick buff and you’re done.
You can also layer EXO V5 on top or top up with that once a year or so as the car will be living outside.
Diver944
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Polishing is easiest done by machine, but yours won't need polishing Pete as it should already be as good as it can be from the paintshop (if they are any good ). Polishing removes the top layer of paint and makes it as flat and as shiny as it can be. You don't want to polish too often
The sealant (or wax by any other name) sits on top of the paint and protects it. The modern ceramic ones we are talking about last AGES and AGES so you won't need to polish or rewax for a long time. After mine was applied I simply washed the car, rinsed then dried it with a microfibre and it looked awesome. I reapplied after 3 years and so on. So much easier than applying normal wax every few months at our advancing age
). Polishing removes the top layer of paint and makes it as flat and as shiny as it can be. You don't want to polish too oftenThe sealant (or wax by any other name) sits on top of the paint and protects it. The modern ceramic ones we are talking about last AGES and AGES so you won't need to polish or rewax for a long time. After mine was applied I simply washed the car, rinsed then dried it with a microfibre and it looked awesome. I reapplied after 3 years and so on. So much easier than applying normal wax every few months at our advancing age
PSH
PCGB Member
Haha...not at all mate...And grumpy with it
PSH
PCGB Member
Car is close to its final stages of reassembly, needs stone guards and lower trim fitted along with a few other bits..plus some satin black on the doors. She's looking good...far too shiny...
I've also bought some ceramic coating sealant to apply as soon as she's back home. Oh and this morning I ordered a large wooden gazebo structure which will be used as a car port.Pete
Kongsodoken
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Very Nice - wheels need a clean. 
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