matthewlatter
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Mine has arrived today collecting tomorrow!!Nicks said:
Enjoying the GT4 in the sunshine. Anybody still waiting for delivery, you won’t be disappointed.
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Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?
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spyderwhite
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On paper (porsche figures) a gt4 is as quick as a 997.2 GtS pdk!
Would be interesting if a back to back comparison was done by the media
Would be interesting if a back to back comparison was done by the media
..and a 718 Boxster S PDK is even quicker (if we are talking 0-100kph)
spyderwhite said:
Hi Spyder - I hope your right ... as i said my car is brand new so lots of running in to do - presently sticking to 4k revs so got nowhere near the sweet spot yet ...
matthewlatter
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I think the point of the GT4 is the ease to extract the performance. I dont think you can be fair on 0-62 times thats not the GT4's remit.
spyderwhite said:
all the cars are the same, My Spyder keeps with a GT3 till 90mph
a X51 C2S is faster to 90 mph than a GT3 due to gearing, but we are talking 1/10th on all these cars
to see a big speed change between cars you need a turbo and 100bhp.
look at the 991 GTS vs the GT4 vid 7.50 in they do a drag race nothing in. then a track battle, but the GTS will be on P zero while the GT4 will be on CUP's
[link=https://youtu.be/qVWKgbZZNTM]https://youtu.be/qVWKgbZZNTM[/link]
Any one who did not get a GT4 would be well to look at a 991 GTS esp as they are now cheaper than a GT4 to buy 2nd hand.
spyderwhite
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ralphmusic said:
Not just talking 0-60, I have an old 997 Gts price list which has the figures in the back,
manual/Pdk 0-100kmh. 4.6/4.4 & 4.2 sport mode
" " 0-160kmh 9.7/9.4 & 9.1. " "
Cant find the 0-200kmh but recall them being similar.
matthewlatter
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if you want speed buy a turbo....
I remember bombing down my favourite road in my 991 4s thinking I couldn't go much faster.
3.8 n/s all you ever need on the public road.
I remember bombing down my favourite road in my 991 4s thinking I couldn't go much faster.
3.8 n/s all you ever need on the public road.
matthewlatter
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Did your car come with the tracker ?
They want a £1000 at dealers to fit it...
Regards
Matt
They want a £1000 at dealers to fit it...
Regards
Matt
MrDemon said:
Mr D - I did a GTS day at PPC 6 months after getting my GTS and it was bone dry and drove 991 GTS as part of that day ... I then drove the GT4 in the wet in December at PPC and would say the GT4's road holding and cornering speed in the wet was as good at the 991 GTS in the dry ... The 991 GTS feels massive as a unit in comparison to the razor sharp small GT4 ... The GT4 is the best car IMO but as you said 991 GTS is a good car but you will lose £20k on it so go 997 GTS which will have slow depreciation and all the thrills for £60k ...
Andrew,
"The 991 GTS feels massive as a unit in comparison to the razor sharp small GT4"
Do you not think that what you're sensing is the difference between mid-engine and overhung rear engine handling characteristics? I wouldn't exactly call the GT4 small but with its lower polar moment of inertia, the Cayman is able to change direction more readily than the 991, making it feel more nimble.
Also, it's interesting to note that although the 1,505kg 991's overall length and wheelbase are 4499mm and 2450mm, the equivalent dimensions for the 1,415kg GT4 are 4438mm 2484mm. Lighter, shorter, longer wheelbase will give a different handling characteristic.
Jeff
"The 991 GTS feels massive as a unit in comparison to the razor sharp small GT4"
Do you not think that what you're sensing is the difference between mid-engine and overhung rear engine handling characteristics? I wouldn't exactly call the GT4 small but with its lower polar moment of inertia, the Cayman is able to change direction more readily than the 991, making it feel more nimble.
Also, it's interesting to note that although the 1,505kg 991's overall length and wheelbase are 4499mm and 2450mm, the equivalent dimensions for the 1,415kg GT4 are 4438mm 2484mm. Lighter, shorter, longer wheelbase will give a different handling characteristic.
Jeff
matthewlatter
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Here you go, Epic !
For the record I would say its quite a bit smaller than the 991 loads of room in my garage.
For the record I would say its quite a bit smaller than the 991 loads of room in my garage.
matthewlatter
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Love the Carmine. Its deep colour has a richness and many different reds in one..
Motorhead said:
Jeff is right. The way the cars feel is more to do with their engine position than their outer dimensions. Having the engine mass directly behind your seat, with you in the centre of the car gives a completely different sensation when turning, even at fairly slow speeds, compared to having the engine slung out the rear away from you. Their agility is very different. Because of this the Cayman feels smaller despite its longer wheelbase.
Not sure what that video concludes by comparing a 991 standard road car on standard tyres to a GT4 with more track focused suspension and track focused tyres. If the GT4 is miles better then it should be on that set up. If they're fairly close then I guess it says you can have your cake and eat it as MrD recommends with the GTS. The 991 driver hung the the tail out and then the GT4 passed but didn't pull away. So I didn't know what to take from that. But they're not exactly alternatives that give the same experience. Nothing else from Porsche will give the GT4 experience. It's very unique in that regard.
Motorhead said:
Hi Jeff,
I am starting to appreciate the difference between back and mid engine but the size of 991 cars is unbelievable, but its not just the general size - the seating position in the GT4 is so much lower than my 997 GTS and the 991 GTS felt even higher, giving it a feeling of a "cruiser" with great visibility, but you still felt very high when cornering hence the feeling and also the outright fact that the GT4 will out corner anything in Porsches line up ... The GT4 is incredibly low in every way and you feel in "the belly" of the car, especially with 918 seats on their lowest setting which i am guessing most people have it in as the steering wheel position only suits the low seat position, for me anyway ... rear and reversing visibility is a nightmare in the GT4 and also the seating makes it difficult to look behind when reversing out of my driveway but thats all part of the GT4 experience. I would say the Z4 M Coupe is the closest thing to a GT4 with regard to seating and ride height, heavy clutch etc - i know its front engine but the Sports car feel is similar and i would say grab a Z4M this year as they will become M car legends over time ....
Andrew
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