Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?

MrDemon · Jan 31, 2016

ChrisW said:
I would probably have kept my Cayman R had it not been for the Clubsport package with full harnesses also for the passenger.

So you paid £45k to get a harness bar !

that's going some !!!

ChrisW · Jan 31, 2016

Safety is always a must have.

But your arithmetic is wide of the mark.

I have at least £45k more equity in exchange for my £45k ... so maybe the safety (and everything else) came free ... ?

Flange · Feb 3, 2016

MrDemon said:
CarreraGTS said:

MrDemon said:

spyderwhite said:

6 cars for sale at opc now with 2 of those at Leicester! the flippers dealership of choice? was that not were mrd got his car and has he also flipped!

Anyone who wanted a car from them and didn't get one should be well and truly p*ssed off!

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Solihul have sold 3 of theirs,and most OPC seem to have 1 or 2 in showrooms for sale, juts NOT on the Porsched used car list. but as you say 2 have been up for sale at Leicester and the top555 car was also from Leicester. as for me flipping my car, why do you keep posting such rumors, do you get a thrill form it ?, I left PH because of the bull**** I don't want to see it here.

My car is safe in my garage thanks, but being a self made business man I do look at a nice return of 40% any one who does not look at a 40% return should NOT be in business.

So yes I might sell it as a 40% return tax free is sound business. And as I have said gets me into a Exige for net cost of £25k , that's cheap motoring and frees up a load of cash to invest in my business's. You could say the stupid people are the keepers

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Mr D - As ever your right ... HaHa ... x The only trouble is if you flip you will kill any chance of a further GT car, so not as wise a 40% decision as you may think and then theres the depreciation of the Exige plus the embarrassment of driving a Lotus ... LOL xxx

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you can flip it to an OPC and then they will give you the next GT car, only if you flip it outside the network you loose out, OPC want the chance to make money that's all. Again sound business model ps the new exige sport looks a solid car now they have took it apart and put it together right lol It will not go down below £40k and in real money it will only cost me £25k to get in it ! So I would still be £15k up after 3 years !

If I flip my car to my OPC is secures me a RS and I get to use an Exige Sport 350 for the summer at no risk . pick up an RS in 2 years and make £40k on that. I have to go in it with a business mind now which is a shame, but its free money and as long as you resell to your OPC they will keep letting you have cars ,money makes money.

As you have stated if prices go down and you sell now you can get back in a gt4 for £10k over maybe, so £20k in your pocket and you still have a GT4 many many options, but the key thing atm is SELL NOW , hence you see many people selling up !

I still might not sell now as I like the car it's a hard choice but for many people it looks easy to make 40% risk and tax free. CS spec 10k more than normal spec I doubt lol, maybe in 10 years time, but atm it's all about an amount over list price whatever the spec (unless the cars over speced). If the RS does happen CS GT4 might be no advantage at all, as all the CS boys will FLIP into an RS and you have a glut of them, the flippers do seem to be CS pack cars also ! where as I speced the car for me as I intended NOT to sell and still might not.

ANd in fact if you have over speced which some cars are at £86k you loose out as the selling top prices atm seem to be £108/110k which is only £24k ! margin £6k down on what my car would fetch atm !

interesting though, but most CS cars were speced to flip(not track) it seems !

A Lotus that won't go below £40k?

ha ha ha ha ha.....

dream on sunshine

MrDemon · Feb 3, 2016

I am not a big fan of how Lotus have gone the last few years (read 10 years) , but I have owned 2 for 6 years in the past and they are great fun.

I doubt the new 350 Sport will drop below £40k for 3 years or even 5.

So not sure what you find funny !

It will cost you circa £40k to get into a 2012 V6 Exige now !!! so those will hold up the 350 Sport prices as the new car seems far far better sorted.

MrDemon · Feb 3, 2016

ChrisW said:
Safety is always a must have.

But your arithmetic is wide of the mark.

I have at least £45k more equity in exchange for my £45k ... so maybe the safety (and everything else) came free ... ?

lol I just found your quote funny that's all

"I would probably have kept my Cayman R had it not been for the Clubsport package"

it's a killer line, maybe just to me lol

CLIFFWILKINS · Feb 3, 2016

Talking of CR with all the high priced GT4s for sale that a lot of us can't afford just seen a CR up for £51,995 yes its probably as new as it has a tad under 2,000 miles on it and its a PDK and without Spyder wheels .

Also another at 47,995 prices seam to be pushing up maybe others will follow suit if it a good low mileage right spec car.

Not a lot else in the Porsche range for 50k that's a little bit different.

MrDemon · Feb 4, 2016

The R is the new 964 imo

and as people, tuned and modded the 964 the R is the perfect Platform to make the perfect road car. 370BHp, 996 GT3 brakes and PSS tyres to start and wow one mega thing.

I don't see people parting £50k for an R though, the low miles means you just cannot use it or it will drop in price £8k over night.

£42k and 20k miles are the cars to go for imo, unless you make bucks on selling a GT car and want an as new R for a premium.

Brian_Innes · Feb 4, 2016

All this chat about CR prices is quite topical for me at present.

My CR is coming up for sale soon. It's a 27k miles manual, buckets, sports exhaust, short shifter, alcantara trimmings, GT3 brake MC, Goodridge steel braided pipes, Sports Chrono Plus, PCM, Michelin PSS, etc, etc....... I'll not bore you readers with the rest of it at the moment.

Full spec will be posted in due course following the MOT and service next week.

My car is no garage queen, it's driven as it was designed to be driven, and rested during the winter months.

I'm thinking of asking offers over £37,500. Does this sound reasonable?

BTW I live in the Highlands of Scotland, so not in the thick of the population as in down south.

Brian

ChrisW · Feb 4, 2016

I'm also a big fan of the MPSuperSport tyres ---

I now have a set on the GT4 and in this grimy cold weather they are a comforting step up in the "what if" stakes ...

Flange · Feb 4, 2016

MrDemon said:
I am not a big fan of how Lotus have gone the last few years (read 10 years) , but I have owned 2 for 6 years in the past and they are great fun.

I doubt the new 350 Sport will drop below £40k for 3 years or even 5.

So not sure what you find funny !

It will cost you circa £40k to get into a 2012 V6 Exige now !!! so those will hold up the 350 Sport prices as the new car seems far far better sorted.

If you look hard enough you'll find 2013 cars for mid - high 30's.

but let's face it, the engine is old and crap and has a deisel gearbox.

and you'd prefer that to a gt4?

and, you can get at least 10% off a new one now - if you know who to talk to.

doesnt say much for residuals, does it

MrDemon · Feb 4, 2016

BJ Innes said:
All this chat about CR prices is quite topical for me at present.

My CR is coming up for sale soon. It's a 27k miles manual, buckets, sports exhaust, short shifter, alcantara trimmings, GT3 brake MC, Goodridge steel braided pipes, Sports Chrono Plus, PCM, Michelin PSS, etc, etc....... I'll not bore you readers with the rest of it at the moment.

Full spec will be posted in due course following the MOT and service next week.

My car is no garage queen, it's driven as it was designed to be driven, and rested during the winter months.

I'm thinking of asking offers over £37,500. Does this sound reasonable?

BTW I live in the Highlands of Scotland, so not in the thick of the population as in down south.

Brian

my advice is keep it

I wish I had mine still, it's the perfect road car for driving.

CLIFFWILKINS · Feb 4, 2016

Brian that price looks a little shy

I just looked at cars for sale with your mileage they hover around 42k for good ones not unless you want a super fast quick sale .

MrDemon · Feb 5, 2016

depends if you are going to add 1 or 2 years OPC warranty on it,

selling a car circa £40k is quite hard and every one wants a 111 check and maybe at least a year OPC warranty adding, plus if manual a rev range check.

there is a minter R at an OPC for £42k atm with 2 years warranty and it's a bloody nice spec car inc leather with 21k miles plus all the bits one looks for in a R

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cars are always slower sales in Scotland and cheaper, plus many won't buy from up north as the roads are salted 4 months of the year and cars tend to be orange under them, so I know a few people even if the cars look mega will not take a trip to Scotland just because cars have a hard life up there though winters. (not my words, just seems some people won't buy a Scotish car) bit like me not buying a London car, I must have been to look at 20 London cars all were battered and the owners think it's the norm, I won't even go to London even if the car looks ok INC dealers. I have deposited money even at dealers for cars, to turn up and the cars be sub standard, London is a shit place to buy a car from EVEN from dealers.

I have bought a few cars from Scotland though without issue as they tend to be £3 or £4k cheaper so I fly up and drive back.

with the mods on the R though, even though they are nice ones inc the PSS tyres, you may not get a warranty on that car.

good luck with the sale, but I still say keep it.

Andy Fagan · Feb 5, 2016

MrDemon said:
depends if you are going to add 1 or 2 years OPC warranty on it,

selling a car circa £40k is quite hard and every one wants a 111 check and maybe at least a year OPC warranty adding, plus if manual a rev range check.

there is a minter R at an OPC for £42k atm with 2 years warranty and it's a bloody nice spec car inc leather with 21k miles plus all the bits one looks for in a R

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cars are always slower sales in Scotland and cheaper, plus many won't buy from up north as the roads are salted 4 months of the year and cars tend to be orange under them, so I know a few people even if the cars look mega will not take a trip to Scotland just because cars have a hard life up there though winters. (not my words, just seems some people won't buy a Scotish car) bit like me not buying a London car, I must have been to look at 20 London cars all were battered and the owners think it's the norm, I won't even go to London even if the car looks ok INC dealers. I have deposited money even at dealers for cars, to turn up and the cars be sub standard, London is a **** place to buy a car from EVEN from dealers.

I have bought a few cars from Scotland though without issue as they tend to be £3 or £4k cheaper so I fly up and drive back.

with the mods on the R though, even though they are nice ones inc the PSS tyres, you may not get a warranty on that car.

good luck with the sale, but I still say keep it.

When I bought my CR I would have travelled anywhere to buy a car in the right spec. It's not the type of car that you have the benefit of being too selective about minor details. This one is a manual CR with a good colour and spec. Try and find another one!! I don't think it will be on sale long [

] Roads are salted everywhere, and many Porsche owners don't use them during winter months. Personally I'd rather buy from a rural location than a city car.

MrDemon · Feb 5, 2016

the joy of owning a Porsche is you can use them all year round, most people do imo.

that OPC R looks a nice buy though and top spec for sure, it will be soon gone.

Andy Fagan · Feb 5, 2016

MrDemon said:
the joy of owning a Porsche is you can use them all year round, most people do imo.

Maybe most do, but many do not, and if you read Brian's post he says it is not used over the winter months [:-]

CLIFFWILKINS · Feb 5, 2016

As said if its a specific spec one seeks try finding another.

I wanted at least 6 must haves but we know you can't find everything I got one with 5 out of the 6 not bad.

My must haves mines got are Manual box Bucket seats PSE Chrono Spyder wheels Alacantara bits few other odds and ends.

Only 13 k on clock now. ( No Warranty) now who needs one never had a problem don't know any CR that has had major issues.

Most general stuff aint covered anyways.

Good luck if you decide to sell Brian still thinks its worth more.

ralphmusic · Feb 5, 2016

Back to GT4's a discussion and info on actual weights

[link=http://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/889705-true-gt4-weight-and-suspension-info.html]http://rennlist.com/forum...d-suspension-info.html[/link]

ralphmusic · Feb 5, 2016

GT car meet at Colchester

See [link=https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=908174#908174]https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=908174#908174[/link]

Brian_Innes · Feb 5, 2016

Thanks guys for your comments. All noted.

My CR is not used on salty roads, it's rested during the winter months. I have priced it keenly as I want to sell soon for health reasons.

Mr D, I accept your comments on the warranty issue, bearing in mind my brake mods. It's a car for a driving enthusiast, and not a show car.

I have no concerns at all about my car passing the 111 point check.

Following the MOT it'll be advertised for sale.

Brian