I just drove the 'Ring in the Yellow Bird!
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carlmthompson
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I'll be interested in the much talked about damage model - it's the only thing that lets the current game down!
OK so after all this talk, and 5th Gear last night, the little man and I have gone halves on it.
What a silly place The Ring is. Only having had the game a couple of hours, and only had time for four laps myself, I'm at 7:40 in the Lister Storm. I have managed to hit or scrape most of the barriers.
Do people realy drive around there in their road cars? You must be mad! It seems almost impossible to work out which are the blind flat out bends and which are the blind nasty brake hard bends.....and that's with the gear indicator.
What a silly place The Ring is. Only having had the game a couple of hours, and only had time for four laps myself, I'm at 7:40 in the Lister Storm. I have managed to hit or scrape most of the barriers.
Do people realy drive around there in their road cars? You must be mad! It seems almost impossible to work out which are the blind flat out bends and which are the blind nasty brake hard bends.....and that's with the gear indicator.
Elliot Davies
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Do the visitors to the real 'Ring' drive around the whole lap with their eyes open like i do playing GT4
Question.......Does lipsyl onto your eyeballs stop them from drying out for 1 lap ? [
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good game though, The RUFs dont handle like i expected ! Im not wanting one now ...........
Question.......Does lipsyl onto your eyeballs stop them from drying out for 1 lap ? [
] good game though, The RUFs dont handle like i expected ! Im not wanting one now ...........
All this nonsence about fast times in fast cars. You try a lap in the Ginetta and see how you get on. I have no doubt you will develop a new found level of smoothness and insight which will pay dividends when you go back to a real (sorry I mean modern) car. []
I'm on a 9:40 though I anticipate there is a good 20-30 seconds available off that based on time made up, and lost, on subsequent laps.
I would respectfully suggest anyone getting a sub 9 minute in the Ginetta is a driving god.
]I'm on a 9:40 though I anticipate there is a good 20-30 seconds available off that based on time made up, and lost, on subsequent laps.
I would respectfully suggest anyone getting a sub 9 minute in the Ginetta is a driving god.
The Ginetta is a feisty little number isn't it?
Hats off to you getting a 9:40 John, on my first lap 9:40 came up just before I turned into the mini-Karussel (11:27 total) and my second was a 10:47 - hampered by parking the thing nose on to the barrier just before the very last corner for at least 10 seconds wasted.
I take it it has a swing axle like a Triumph Vitesse? I have never had the "pleasure" of driving such an unforgiving chassis. The mantra "slow in fast out" and "always brake in a straight line" have never been so apt because this thing is about as stable as a turbocharged Hyabusa running slicks on black ice. Don't even think of having more that a few degrees of lock on if you need to slow down because you need the throttle at least half open to keep the back end in check. Even backing off too much has the rear wheels making an overtaking attempt and that can sooo easily end up in a tankslapper that takes a lot more than the width of the 'Ring to catch. If you carry too much speed into a corner then it just turns into an unguided missile either spinning if you try to lose the speed of ploughing straight on if you keep enough power in to keep the back end loaded enough to stick it. I guess someone with more skill than Fangio could unsettle it and then catch the ensuing slide...
All that said when you string together a few corners well it is such a satisfying thing to do it's addictive and it's the only car I've come out of the Karussel on 1/2 a turn of opposite lock in while still feeling I took the corner properly.
I'm off to bed now and off to Holland tomorrow so it'll be Sunday before I get another crack at the 9 minute challenge. Better crack the 10 minute one first though...
Hats off to you getting a 9:40 John, on my first lap 9:40 came up just before I turned into the mini-Karussel (11:27 total) and my second was a 10:47 - hampered by parking the thing nose on to the barrier just before the very last corner for at least 10 seconds wasted.
I take it it has a swing axle like a Triumph Vitesse? I have never had the "pleasure" of driving such an unforgiving chassis. The mantra "slow in fast out" and "always brake in a straight line" have never been so apt because this thing is about as stable as a turbocharged Hyabusa running slicks on black ice. Don't even think of having more that a few degrees of lock on if you need to slow down because you need the throttle at least half open to keep the back end in check. Even backing off too much has the rear wheels making an overtaking attempt and that can sooo easily end up in a tankslapper that takes a lot more than the width of the 'Ring to catch. If you carry too much speed into a corner then it just turns into an unguided missile either spinning if you try to lose the speed of ploughing straight on if you keep enough power in to keep the back end loaded enough to stick it. I guess someone with more skill than Fangio could unsettle it and then catch the ensuing slide...
All that said when you string together a few corners well it is such a satisfying thing to do it's addictive and it's the only car I've come out of the Karussel on 1/2 a turn of opposite lock in while still feeling I took the corner properly.
I'm off to bed now and off to Holland tomorrow so it'll be Sunday before I get another crack at the 9 minute challenge. Better crack the 10 minute one first though...
So very true - a very accurate summary Fen. It is such a frustrating little beast, but so nice if you can get it to do what you want it to - not that I've managed to get it to do that for a full lap yet. It may only top out at 125 but you have to be in control for the full ten minutes. There are so many points around the track when you feel it is realy working for you but then just as many where keeping it on the track at all seems beyond the scope of man. Then the next lap the previous good bits go pear shaped and the impossible bits seem to flow as if Tiffny Dell was at the wheel. If only I could string all the good bits together for one whole lap.
I had to give myself a break and take out the Jag S type. I'm very taken with that. It is almost the complete opposite to the Ginetta. Smoooooth and easy to drive, with monster brakes and loads of stabillity. Like I said, the complete opposte to the Ginetta.
Damn -you've discovered my favourite car- -the Ginetta. Handful, ain't it!!
Me laddo was driving an E-Type Jag last night in an enduarance race, around Le Mans sans Mulsanne straight chicanes -that looked fun. It handled remarkably well, then I found he's tweaked the suspension and tyres......youngsters today, doh!!
Somebody asked a question here about unlocking Le Mans? Well this was his answer:
"erm.... complete all licenses, do 4x4 races(special conditions)! complete
beginner mode... all i can suggest is keep racing! i can't remember the
exact race i unlocked it on!"
Me laddo was driving an E-Type Jag last night in an enduarance race, around Le Mans sans Mulsanne straight chicanes -that looked fun. It handled remarkably well, then I found he's tweaked the suspension and tyres......youngsters today, doh!!
Somebody asked a question here about unlocking Le Mans? Well this was his answer:
"erm.... complete all licenses, do 4x4 races(special conditions)! complete
beginner mode... all i can suggest is keep racing! i can't remember the
exact race i unlocked it on!"
I'm assuming GT4 replicates the 1960's version. IIRC they have updated the mechanicals with a Zetec engine etc and re-released it primarily for the Japanees market. VBH seemed to get quite moist driving the new version in last years 5th Gear.
I had thought about one as a replacement for the Westfield - I was sick of getting cold and wet as it always seemed to rain when I was racing or had track days.
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I was reading this thread yesterday and also heard the sound of gauntlet hiting pavement. The gineta is a great drive and reminds me of driving my knackerd old spitfire, fast. Anyway after dinner i got the G4 out in standard form in the time trial mode.
Best time I could manage was 9.13 and I recon there,s a sub 9.00 not to far away.
So come on can any one beat my time. (Gauntlet thrown)
Best time I could manage was 9.13 and I recon there,s a sub 9.00 not to far away.
So come on can any one beat my time. (Gauntlet thrown)
Elliot Davies
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keep racing guys, has the boys eyes turned square yet mel ? [
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Elliot Davies
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Meant to post a link to GT4 info and walkthroughs
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/granturismo4/hints.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/granturismo4/hints.html
I hate this game - I'd just done a 1:35 in the Ginetta and was 15 seconds up when it all went pear shaped on that long flat bit with the kink prior to the mini karoselle.
I'm not saying that it was Belinda's fault but she had just been talking to me and I was pondering what she had said. [][][][]
I'm not saying that it was Belinda's fault but she had just been talking to me and I was pondering what she had said. [
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jamescharnley
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ORIGINAL: John Sims
All this nonsence about fast times in fast cars. You try a lap in the Ginetta and see how you get on. I have no doubt you will develop a new found level of smoothness and insight which will pay dividends when you go back to a real (sorry I mean modern) car. [
I'm on a 9:40 though I anticipate there is a good 20-30 seconds available off that based on time made up, and lost, on subsequent laps.
I would respectfully suggest anyone getting a sub 9 minute in the Ginetta is a driving god.
9.22 on 2nd time out with all stock settings [
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jamescharnley
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why don't some of you enter our 'Ringmaster' challenge over on the DDK forum?
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4918
'86 RUF with all stock settings []
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4918
'86 RUF with all stock settings [
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Did a 9:45 first time out, best time so far 9:09.883 [
] Still had a few "moments" on that lap, so I think I can go quicker... Less wine might help too []The Ginetta rocks!
Jim.
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