Nick USA for new Regional Organiser?
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How about
The sun is rise
Today I went abot my bizz
Now I'm on the Fizz
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The sun is rise
Today I went abot my bizz
Now I'm on the Fizz
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T'was the barn door open
When I spyed your 944
All white and perfect
And now the owl sings
From the upper beam
So it was to be .......
When I spyed your 944
All white and perfect
And now the owl sings
From the upper beam
So it was to be .......
Hi Guys
Can we please tone this down as I believe this is getting personal to a fellow member and will cause upset.
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Thanks for your help and understanding here.
Can we please tone this down as I believe this is getting personal to a fellow member and will cause upset.
The Forum Rules state:
3.1.1 Post insulting, threatening or defamatory material or material likely to cause undue
annoyance, provocation, upset or embarrassment to any reasonable person.
Thanks for your help and understanding here.
Tanzi
New member
Fact is that London Region is completely dead.
We used to have a committee of 2 running it for a while and it livened up quite a bit - but absolutely nothing happens now.
It is no good being RO if you are not able to put any time into the job - it is not a personal thing, and not a question about your ability to do the job. Simply if you are just not available to attend meetings, organise events etc - and someone else is keen to take up the reins - then surely it is in the best interest of the club to let him have a go.
This whole club has become so focussed on politics and bitching - there is not a lot to entice people to participate on a regular basis.
Organisers of the club should be people who are interested in the cars and interested in people. Most of all they should be enthusiastic about what they do if they wish to engage the interest of the members.
Here's hoping for an injection of fun in the club.......
We used to have a committee of 2 running it for a while and it livened up quite a bit - but absolutely nothing happens now.
It is no good being RO if you are not able to put any time into the job - it is not a personal thing, and not a question about your ability to do the job. Simply if you are just not available to attend meetings, organise events etc - and someone else is keen to take up the reins - then surely it is in the best interest of the club to let him have a go.
This whole club has become so focussed on politics and bitching - there is not a lot to entice people to participate on a regular basis.
Organisers of the club should be people who are interested in the cars and interested in people. Most of all they should be enthusiastic about what they do if they wish to engage the interest of the members.
Here's hoping for an injection of fun in the club.......
pauljmcnulty
New member
Peter's right that the forum isn't the best place to discuss things like this; there is a proper proceedure and you sort of have to stick to it for everyone's benefit.
The first thing to do is talk to the Regional Director about any problems, it's his job to sort out who runs what region and if they need more help. I can't see why you shouldn't have a couple of helpers with a region like London that's quite spread-out and has several monthly events. The Rgional Director should be able to help put a team together from the RO and the obviously willing volunteers here? [
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Peter by all means delete if you think appropriate, R20 letting off some steam and pented up fustration here.....
It's a pity watching what was a very healthy Region implode, now that I find and other R20 regulars stressful .... a solution suggested perhaps from above or is it to continue to plod along[&o]
It's a pity watching what was a very healthy Region implode, now that I find and other R20 regulars stressful .... a solution suggested perhaps from above or is it to continue to plod along[&o]
Sorry Paul, but this has has raised several time with past and current regional Directors with no action at all, hence the frustration.
The records speak for themselves, just check PP and the R20 forum for the last 24 months, excluding pre existing events, and activities actually organised by others unfortunately very little, yet between us regional members we have arranged serveral annual events, socials, etc etc
We are at an impasse here there is one solution but.....................................
The records speak for themselves, just check PP and the R20 forum for the last 24 months, excluding pre existing events, and activities actually organised by others unfortunately very little, yet between us regional members we have arranged serveral annual events, socials, etc etc
We are at an impasse here there is one solution but.....................................
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
Peter's right that the forum isn't the best place to discuss things like this; there is a proper proceedure and you sort of have to stick to it for everyone's benefit.
The first thing to do is talk to the Regional Director about any problems, it's his job to sort out who runs what region and if they need more help. I can't see why you shouldn't have a couple of helpers with a region like London that's quite spread-out and has several monthly events. The Rgional Director should be able to help put a team together from the RO and the obviously willing volunteers here? [
That route was thoroughly followed but totally Fudged by the previous Regional Director after months of pontificating, maybe he could brief the new Regional Director as to ALL the history, including the summary dismissal at the time of the co- RO!
More than happy to talk in person to all if you all want to meet up. Have been open for a chat but none of the break away groups has taken up the offer including the same grouo calling for a regional committee and then none putting their names forward. Nick's wife was the most honest to tell me none of this guys like me and dont want to work with me, so whatever good things and events I do will be futile and dismissed as unacceptable.
Very easy posting on forum but lets do this sensibly and meet in person at one of the regular meet locations or venue of choice but also have representive of the region and not just a tiny breakaway sub-group who want to form a mini-region within a region.
Richmond meet next Wednesday if interested as not seen any of you posting here attend for several years! Yes, it may not be Easy travel for all but then no London in a city like London will be.
You have my number and email address (Porsche File or Porsche Post) why not speak/email rather than start conspiracies on the forum (BTW this area is completely public not just viewable to club members)?
All the best,
Kish
Very easy posting on forum but lets do this sensibly and meet in person at one of the regular meet locations or venue of choice but also have representive of the region and not just a tiny breakaway sub-group who want to form a mini-region within a region.
Richmond meet next Wednesday if interested as not seen any of you posting here attend for several years! Yes, it may not be Easy travel for all but then no London in a city like London will be.
You have my number and email address (Porsche File or Porsche Post) why not speak/email rather than start conspiracies on the forum (BTW this area is completely public not just viewable to club members)?
All the best,
Kish
pauljmcnulty
New member
Forget the previous RD, the new one is the person who should sort this out. Put a request in to him, and he's duty-bound to deal with it quickly. Especially in a Region as prominent as London.
If you don't get a satisfactory result there, then put in an open letter to all the board demanding that they address your concerns at the next board meeting, and that they give you the results of that discussion immediately.
If that fails, get a new board! [
][] Joking aside, I feel it would be very odd for them to disagree that a few helpers are needed with the RO being a one-man-band, and now having Board duties as well. With a few good people offering to step up and help it's a no-brainer, surely?cherrington
New member
I agree posts should not be personal and am not particularly happy with the recent attempts at humour. I am certain however these are borne of weariness rather than malice.
The fact is that an individual has significantly failed in his responsibility to the London membership, he no longer has the respect or support of the active members, read this thread, but refuses to stand down.
I do not understand the psychology here, the situation will not change this has been going on for years, so in order to save us all from further embarassment please whoever is listening encourage an honorable resignation here coupled with an invitation to join in with the inevitable flood of activities that will ensue.
We have a volunteer prepared to do the job properly, an active and numerous group of helpers all frustrated because of this nonsense.
JC
The fact is that an individual has significantly failed in his responsibility to the London membership, he no longer has the respect or support of the active members, read this thread, but refuses to stand down.
I do not understand the psychology here, the situation will not change this has been going on for years, so in order to save us all from further embarassment please whoever is listening encourage an honorable resignation here coupled with an invitation to join in with the inevitable flood of activities that will ensue.
We have a volunteer prepared to do the job properly, an active and numerous group of helpers all frustrated because of this nonsense.
JC
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
Forget the previous RD, the new one is the person who should sort this out. Put a request in to him, and he's duty-bound to deal with it quickly. Especially in a Region as prominent as London.
If you don't get a satisfactory result there, then put in an open letter to all the board demanding that they address your concerns at the next board meeting, and that they give you the results of that discussion immediately.
If that fails, get a new board! [
We have, we will, unfortunately to many bridges have been burnt here, like the CEO's that do not match the expectation of the street, perhaps a fresh face is required.
Kish, believe several of us have already spoken with you in person, you know where we stand
ORIGINAL: Beaky
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
Forget the previous RD, the new one is the person who should sort this out. Put a request in to him, and he's duty-bound to deal with it quickly. Especially in a Region as prominent as London.
If you don't get a satisfactory result there, then put in an open letter to all the board demanding that they address your concerns at the next board meeting, and that they give you the results of that discussion immediately.
If that fails, get a new board! [
We have, we will, unfortunately to many bridges have been burnt here, like the CEO's that do not match the expectation of the street, perhaps a fresh face is required.
Kish, believe several of us have already spoken with you in person, you know where we stand
Chris,
For the record you have never taken up the offer to talk to me, including discussing the regional committee which according to the board you had proposed.
Kish
cherrington
New member
Kish I have just read your post.
Please do not be deluded and please do not attempt to bring this debate down to a personal level. There is no tiny breakaway group, read this thread, just about every active London member ie those who have supported events in numbers are wanting change. No support for your achievments as RO have been posted because there has been nothing to support.
Your record speaks for itself, I am certain there are good reasons for this and would not presume to delve into them however you cannot wear the coat without doing the job and you havn't.
There is no point in with meeting you, that's been tried, there really is nothing to discuss any longer.
We are totally fed up with this type of thread on the R20 site. We run the risk of being called vindictive, petty, unkind and I agree the public washing of dirty linen is not a place we want to be any longer.
The solution is in your hands.
John
Please do not be deluded and please do not attempt to bring this debate down to a personal level. There is no tiny breakaway group, read this thread, just about every active London member ie those who have supported events in numbers are wanting change. No support for your achievments as RO have been posted because there has been nothing to support.
Your record speaks for itself, I am certain there are good reasons for this and would not presume to delve into them however you cannot wear the coat without doing the job and you havn't.
There is no point in with meeting you, that's been tried, there really is nothing to discuss any longer.
We are totally fed up with this type of thread on the R20 site. We run the risk of being called vindictive, petty, unkind and I agree the public washing of dirty linen is not a place we want to be any longer.
The solution is in your hands.
John
iandiman
PCGB Member
I HAVE NOT A SAUSAGEwhat going on at the R20 events in OCT 2012 not that we have any events or nice things to do, at all, thats probably why the mag didn't print a xxxx thing about THE R20 it doesn't exits hahaha well not it this timeline anyway.
as for this sunny weekend I'm going to do a wonderful drive to the seaside may even end up in Devon who know I'm just going to turn the key and drive hahahah have fun
as for this sunny weekend I'm going to do a wonderful drive to the seaside may even end up in Devon who know I'm just going to turn the key and drive hahahah have fun
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