Porsche 944 Prices - The Future....
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pauljmcnulty
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The people with the money to spec a 944 like that, in a recession, were probably unable to fit in to sports seats! [
] Looking back the prices are trully scary, and it's no surprise Porsche got in to so much trouble. The list price was rising 10% a year, and remember that the options list was almost essential as German cars were so under-specced. Factor in 20 years of inflation and a 944 turbo would be Aston money now, rather than Cayman money. I think we forget how Porsche were committed to replacing the 911 at the time. I wonder how different it would have been if the range had been 928 and 944, then the Boxster? That was the plan: a line-up of big touring V8 (like the Panamera), the 968 as a mid- to high-end sports car where the 911 now sits, and an entry-level mid-engined roadster.
£13k S2 http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C580605#
944Scott
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Ok where do we think this will end up? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-944-turbo-250-bhp-/191500051630?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c964ae4ae Its odd to think that when I purchased my car back in 2011 that minus the number plate which is sold on £3000 is what it cost me. The condition was a world apart from the one in the auction and other cars selling at double the price. I wonder what the reserve is?
Patch234
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I think we need to be talking to magazine editors and get some real info out there on the 944 models, the difference in specifications and factual info on the car. Speculation as to the numbers left and some real information on the capabilities of the car considering it was so ground-breaking in the 80's. This should also include some speculation as to what people think will happen with regard to 944 prices. There is some excellent information in this thread alone. Comparisons, with pictures should be made with mint and not so mint models and if it is true that prices are rising significantly the 'general' buyer will need some info on what to look for when buying. I am sure that it will be well received and also a very interesting read. Just a thought, I would like to see the info on this thread be made more widely available as there seems to be a wealth of knowledge here.
edh
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My observation is that over the last year or so we've seen some extremely nice, low mileage, showroom condition cars come up for sale, which have understandably been pitched much higher than the usual turbo prices (typical spread of £5-9k). In the preceding five years there had been very few of these higher quality cars hitting the market. I think this has led to a perception that the prices are rising much faster than they actually are - for example it looks to me as though you can still buy a good S2 for ~£6k. I reckon that price point has been unchanged for years. As another example, I bought my 250 Turbo in 2005 for £6,750 and sold it (with 175k miles) in late 2009 for £6,000. Remember that was a time with the economy looking very dodgy, so prices were pretty weak all round. I doubt it would fetch much more than £7k now, possibly a little more to the right buyer if I waited... So what I think we're seeing, as has been described on here recently, is that the 944's have segmented & we have a better understanding of the top end of the market. Greater visibility of this has flushed out a few sellers. These are the cars that collectors want, and they have moved away in price from the average 944 (whether turbo or not). It's also the case that the Boxster is now the absolute bargain of the Porsche range. Maybe not in terms of investment potential, but just for sheer VFM - check out the Boxster S that has just sold on Tipec for £5,100.
Indi9xx
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Thats interesting... If that car sells for that amount, being a reasonably mileage (78k is low in my book, but still) then it might mean my spreadsheet folly might actually be accurate with its desirability ratio based on ThrottleShops ones selling at £16,995, which would then make a Lux, such as the one on Pistonheads (the £12k 45k mile 2.7) accurate.
MartinRS2K
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For you Dave anything [
] I've changed the first page but the following pages may need Admin to fix??
pauljmcnulty
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Don't see how I can do that, it's copied in replies and would need everyone to edit their replies I think. [&o] Makes no odds: thread of the year so far and some great input.
£4,000,000.00 with kidneys done and rear passage[]
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Yes - pretty sure I remember seeing that late last year. It looks like the same colour as my Turbo, Diamond Blue Metallic, which was a 1987 only colour. Was tempted to ask the seller out of curiosity!! On paper it looked half decent back then, as it does now, surprised it didn't sell - unless there are some problems.
One of Peter Morgan's books does have some figures for production volumes (worldwide I believe), but only up to Nov 1988: 924: 1976 - 19168 1977 - 21956 1978 - 22068 1979 - 15690 1980 - 11908 1981 - 14183 1982 - 5955 1983 - 5887 1984 - 3170 1985 - 2319 Total Production : 122304 924 Turbo: 1978 - 86 1979 - 5023 1980 - 3044 1981 - 3578 1982 - 444 1983 - 210 Total Production : 12385 924 S: 1985 - 1689 1986 - 6844 1987 - 6868 1988 - 881 Total Production : 16282 924 Carrera GT - 406 924 Carrera GTS - 59 944: 1981 - 43 1982 - 13873 1983 - 24761 1984 - 24455 1985 - 24651 1986 - 11816 1987 - 10807 1988 - 3660 Total Production (up to Nov 1988) : 114066 944 Turbo: 1984 - 49 1985 - 4790 1986 - 8263 1987 - 5059 1988 - 2888 Total Production (up to Nov 1988) : 21049 944 S: 1986 - 3861 1987 - 3099 1988 - 614 Total Production (up to Nov 1988) : 7574 We need to find some more figures!!ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K Excellent post Jon, I'm sure one of the Porsche Buyers Guide books has the production figures for the different 944 models. I will have a look later and see if I can find them. If you add in rarity and desirability then this may adjust the prices a little bit, or maybe the Lux, S2 and Cab are at the correct prices but the Turbo and Turbo S need to go higher [
Evening chaps, you're quite right it was for sale throughout Oct/Nov priced at £7000. It's not concours and I really wasn't sure about pricing especially with the latest dealer offerings. Had quite a few test pilots who didn't bother to actually look at the car in any detail, but pestered to drive it and one serious buyer who couldn't get close to the figure in my head. It is diamond metallic blue which is quite distinctive and even though I'm biased, definitely the fastest colour out there!! It's a fine car as it is and could be brought up to concours quite easily, the question is, how much would it cost and what are the potential profits? Hopefully that's for the buyer to decide.....
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