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Clive - I don't recall if this Autocar GT2 test was posted on the PCGB forum. Sorry if it's a repost

http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=231915&CT=V&FLT=34|


 
ORIGINAL: Alex L
Clive - are you going to need something other than semi-slick tyres when you do your Swiss trip?
Alex,
I'll be taking some tyre cutters along. [;)]

Clive this sounds fantastic, I must admit I am biased as our car is Carrera white with sports seats and looks gorgeous!!
I hope you are going to have an open day so we can all come and drool all over it, I feel as we have all watched your car develop, we should have an opportunity to welcome the Gt2, a bit like a christening!!!
Jan,
I can do better than that. How about me inviting contributions! [8|]
Regards,
Clive

 
Super write up . I can see that you will need surgery to remove the grin![:)][:)]
How did it feel for weight on the point and turn in compared to the 4* drive of the Turbos. Is it more direct? Obviously faster , less front weight. More understeer?
Or is it back to fidgetty?( but under control) .
Could you feel the backend or was this neutral ?

Completely awesome car but... do you like the 4*4 drive better (turbo) or has the electickery made the 2* less( tamed) upto its name?

Just off to put another bag of cement in the boot[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: dexter1
Super write up . I can see that you will need surgery to remove the grin![:)][:)]
How did it feel for weight on the point and turn in compared to the 4* drive of the Turbos. Is it more direct? Obviously faster , less front weight. More understeer?
Or is it back to fidgetty?( but under control) .
Could you feel the backend or was this neutral ?
Completely awesome car but... do you like the 4*4 drive better (turbo) or has the electickery made the 2* less( tamed) upto its name?
Just off to put another bag of cement in the boot[:D]

Thanks for the compliment. It's a very easy car to write about as it is so exciting.

Response is much sharper than with the TT - it is basically fairly neutral in handling, but it's perhaps unfair to compare since they are 2 completely different models coming from different directions.

It's a triumph of Porsche engineering that the TT is so good. Cars that both push and pull simultaneously generally tend towards understeer. As GT2 only pushes, the equation is less complicated, allowing engineers to focus in on other aspects of performance eg. increased engine power, reduction in weight etc. Reduced weight and more radical road tyres are major aspects in the gains.

The GT2 chassis is fully adjustable so, in theory, unlike most road cars, it can be made to handle in whatever manner the driver prefers.

Hope this answers your queries. Many thanks for your interest.
Regards,
Clive
 
Hi Guys,

Just returned from the OPC having finalised the spec. for the GT2 - it goes live tomorrow - next month's build with July delivery. [:)]

So here it is:-
T93 - VTS (UK Spec.)
567 - Top tint (UK Spec.)
B4 - Carrera White
635 - ParkAssist (for the dozy driver!)
P12 - Mirror dimming
454 - Cruise control
640 - Chrono Pack
490 - Sound Pack
672 - Extended Nav.
XXF - Red taillights
XPA - Thicker steering wheel
003 - Club sport package
79 - Black leather interior

Regrettfully, I was unable to organise a factory-collect to coincide with our Swiss trip because the factory will be closed, [:(] but it should be here in time for a 1st. August registration so we could be using it from the start of the trip.

I just need to work out now how we can load all of Judy's luggage around that roll cage! [&o]

Thanks to dealer principal, Kevin, for all his help and the excellant luncheon![8D]
Regards,
Clive
 
Excellent choice Sir....[8D]

only question is.. I thought extended navigation was standard now ? or is this the current name for navigation as I know it ??

garyw
 
ORIGINAL: garyw

Excellent choice Sir....[8D]

only question is.. I thought extended navigation was standard now ? or is this the current name for navigation as I know it ??

garyw

Gary,
Bu******d if I know but they're taking £1,100 squids off me for it so it must be something special - also I think I'll need it when I lose sight of you lot and have to find my own way to the next stop. [:(]
Regards,
Clive
 
Too right...[;)]

It must be a different terminology, the extended bit on my system was only £109 (not that I think I've ever used it), so I gather thats the new name for the navi..[:)]

garyw
 
Another white widow maker arrival...

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=441953&an=0&page=0&gonew=1#UNREAD
 
If you are at a loose end over the week end and are passing OPC East London, this may be on view. Will be gone by Tuesday.


 
Lookin' good Nick. Smart colour. Bet you can't wait for Tuesday. Won't they open up for you on Sunday - it is a special occasion after all??? [:(]
Regards,
Clive
 
Just picked this up this evening from OPC East London where Stephen Jackson and his team had done a superb job of preparing the car. Didn't dwell too long as dark rain clouds were threatening and on those tyres a wet M25 in the rush hour didn't appeal.

Little chance to do anything more than just enjoy that new car moment but first impressions are that everything is that bit leaner, meatier and meaner than the turbo. Clutch is heavier, gear throw shorter and in truth the box not as slick as the turbo. The seats are very comfortable, but I will have to stay off the pies, the ride is amazingly compliant and in normal driving no turbo lag to speak of.

My route home takes me up the A41 from M25 and there are one or two up hill sections where I registered a bit of boost pressure. I assume the speedo must be calibrated in km!

It's safely tucked up now out of the rain but when the weather improves it should be fun....




Nick
 
Must say I hadn't seen one in that colour before, but it does look very smart, just in time for the summer as well !!
If the gearbox is anything like the GT3 it should loosen up nicely after a few thousand miles.
Don't think there's any doubt about the fun, hope you get better weather tomorrow !!
Cheers.
 
Congratulations Nick.. very nice [8D]

what does it sound like in comparison to the standard Turbo ?

garyw
 
Nick

Congratulations

Very nice car - until now I thought the 997 in general looked better with strong/primary colours but the GT2 still looks fab in the colour you've chosen

Will you be giving us an update after you've driven it a bit?
 
Thanks guys for the kind comments.

The colour is Meteor Grey, standard on GT2 and I believe elsewhere in parts of the range. Colour is always very difficult and I don't think the selection Porsche have on offer is anything special. In the end it was a balance between sufficient shine to pick up reflections but not so bright that it stands out like a beacon. Discrete and understated is what I was looking for, albeit perhaps not abiding characteristics normally associated with a GT2!

Pleased to hear that the gearbox should ease up with use, currently it is on a par with the 964RS (which for the golfers amongst you is nearer double bogey).

Noisewise I was probably hoping for something slightly more vocal. On the run home it sounded just the same as the turbo. No doubt the exhaust note improves as you push on but I do think it is something the Porsche have got consistently wrong from 996 onwards. From the air cooled cars having the best engine note on the planet "crisp as a metal flake Granny Smith" as someone once said to now when you can hardly hear the things. I run an RS4 as the family fordor and that has a gorgeous resonant bark. Where did it all go wrong with Porsche!

It's raining here, hence spending time writing this, so nothing to report but will keep you posted if the weather ever improves.

Having just read through this prior to posting it sounds a bit down beat. That isn't a fair reflection, this is a very special car.

Nick
 
Where did it all go wrong with Porsche!

...when they changed their target core market to be businessmen that just want quiet motorway cruisers.

LOVE your car though, looks great in meteor. I often think about retrofitting that front to my Turbo, it looks amazing.

Many congrats.

Please remember the 'respect' part of the Porsche campaign though when you go out in the wet [8D]
 

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