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Widow Maker!

ORIGINAL: Lancerlot

As regards performance, I'm told Porsche GB now have a GT2 demonstrator and I'm looking forward to trying that out on the track next month. [8D]
Stand by for further news (if I survive)! [:eek:]
Regards,
Clive

Hi Clive
Thought of you today when I was working over at Millbrook as I was picking up my pass a white GT2 was just leaving the site with some happy punter behind the wheel. I mentioned to a non porsche knowledgeable collegue that it could do 200mph + he then said to me "god then how much quicker is that green GT3 we saw going around the MIRA track the other week". I didn't bother explaining.
Anyway have you had your half day yet.[edit just noticed you'll be there on friday, hope its dry for you and sure you'll enjoy] PL
Later did 130mph in an Astra oil burner around the bowl and cleared all wheels on the yump at the end of the alpine circuit (as a passenger it nearly made me sick).

Cheers

Paul
 
There is a brief article in the latest (May) T.W.O. magazine (for motorcyclists, of which I am one) where they race the GT2 against a Suxuki GSXR 750 (I think) on a wet Bruntingthorpe track and the GT2 won by a staggering 10 secs!

Mixed feelings for me being on both sides of the fence, but it certainly is some car!
 
Current EVO mag has a side by side test between the new GT2, Turbo, GT3 RS and the older GT2. They prefer the GT3 RS.

critch
 
MOVES AT MILLBROOK



On reflection nursing a headache from the previous night's activities was probably not the best way to turn up for a first drive in the fastest road-going 911 Porsche has ever built. Still here we were rolling up the drive of the Flitwick Manor Hotel for a long awaited go with the new GT2.


Here we go!

Porsche GB now has 3 of the 42 in total GT2's that it will eventually bring into UK (all sold BTW). The one I was destined to drive was the same colour as I have spec'd, Carrera White for myself and it did look fabulous. I was happy! The rims were black with the outer lip retaining the natural alloy colour, giving a 2 tone effect. Some of our American cousins, who naturally get their cars before us (?), have decided to repaint their rims all black "" much better IMHO - but specing a ÂŁ900 option and then paying again for repainting does seem a little extravagant so one decision has already been made for me!


All lined up!

As I was introduced to my steed, the morning mist began to clear and the sun gleamed through a light cloud covering (atmospheric stuff eh?) "" a perfect day for a drive in the country. First on-the-road impression is that the car is a pussycat, docile and tractable, the suspension doesn't feel much harsher than the turbo's to be honest -tyre noise is increased and is really quite intrusive. But this not a GT car "" it's a true sports car so there do have to be some compromises. What I can say is that there is none of the banging or crashing over the potholes, usually associated with radical track-orientated machines.

Once inside Millbrook, this schizophrenic Porsche adopts its second persona. It's a true driver's car. There's power in abundance and torque availability a 40' Artic would be more than happy to have. First call was to the high speed bowl where 135 mph saw the GT2 firmly glued to the concrete by its aero package and ground effects. No more drama than a trip up the M5 at the legal speed limit!

Next on to the mile straight, where the latest gismo, launch control, is explored. This is an ECU-led system, not dependant on clutch slip so in theory it can be used ad infinitum without wrecking the transmission "" although Porsche are at pains to warn you that repeated use does strain major components! (So presumably that means the warranty is void if you use it then!) Basically you switch the "Ëśputer mode to show turbo boost, depress the clutch and throttle simultaneously. The engine plateaus at 5K, the boost builds up past 0.7 bar and you drop the clutch. No-one can do a standing start quicker and that's a proven fact. The only problem now is changing gear quick enough to beat the rev limiter. Second to third is a bit tricky and can't be snatched. I missed it a couple of times but it's nothing that can't be overcome with familiarity. Terminal speed is a phenomenal 175mph from a standing start, only previously equalled by me in a car with paddle shift and full throttle gear changes. In 4th gear the car accelerates from 20""147 mph and in 6th gear from 30""204 mph proving the massively flat torque curve.

Not much room for the shopping.

Onto the ABS braking zone. This is a watered section of varying surfaces. Suffice it to say that the GT2's sophisticated systems will stop it in the shortest possible time irrespective of the road surface. It can even cope with varying adhesion surfaces under each wheel. The brakes are outstanding. The pedal is firm and confidence-inspiring with progressive retardation and plenty of "feel"Âť. At 40 MPH on a dry road, GT2 will stop in its own car length!

Highlight of the session is the Alpine Circuit. The tight, twisting route provides swoops, crests and bends aplenty. It really gives the car's suspension and road holding a workout. Needless to say, GT2 remained flat, unruffled and glued to the paving. Suspension travel may be its only limiting factor as it did lift a wheel or two on a couple of occasions, but this is "in extremis"Âť circumstances unlikely to be duplicated in the real world.

Finally, back on to the high speed bowl where consistent lapping at 160 mph left the car unfazed, apart from a traction control warning light that needed resetting once we were back on terra firma so to speak.

My overall impressions? The car is awesome "" a triumph of technology and engineering for Porsche and a delight for potential owners. It's a proper car and a serious piece of kit. Undoubtedly the finest 911 I have ever driven, but because of its focus it may not suit everyone. Is it worth 30K more than the turbo? A resounding yes if you value purity of purpose. The main competition comes from Lambo's Superlegerra at ÂŁ165K and Ferrari's 430 Scuderia at ÂŁ172K so both are very much more expensive.

My thanks to go to Ian Holter, my Porsche driving consultant, a top bloke, who indulged me above and beyond his line of duty and to my pal and demon Porsche seller, Dan Gooda (known as Pers) from my OPC who was great company during the trip; also to Dealer Principal, Kev Turner and Exeter PC for their hospitality.
Regards,
Clive

Some old git in an "I'm the Stig" T shirt!
 
[:D] super write up Clive, gives us lesser humans [:eek:]an insight to the GT2

I'm really pleased though that even after all the monster cars you've driven recently that your still over the moon with the GT2, helps you realise you've made the right choice in the end..

garyw
 
Fantastic report Clive - gotta love that Millbrook for showing us how special these cars really are!

Can't wait until the swiss trip to compare our two monsters [;)]

 
Well Hi everyone this is my first post on here , My name is Dan Gooda and I am currently at OPC Exeter working as a Sales Exec .

I had the pleasure of hosting clive to Millbrook to drive the GT2 and I just wanted to share my impressions of this car , Firstly I did only get a few miles behind the wheel on some great twists and turns and some nice straights so my review is purely road based .

A little background into what I have done previously Firstly I am very much into cars and have been working in the motor trade for a good number of years , Through main dealers such as Subaru where it all began then on to Bentley in Exeter and just recently a 2 year posting in California working with Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, Saleen, Spyker, Lotus and Bugatti , I have been fortunate enough to have driven pretty much every supercar you care to mention , A very lucky boy indeed !

Anyway as not to bore you to much back to the GT2 , my first impressions on seeing this car is a massive WOW with beautiful lines and an aggressive stance I new this car meant business and was not proved wrong !

Upon getting in the seats were amazing they hug you in all the right places and as a larger man this was good , the engine sounds amazing and alot quiter inside than most of its rivels .

On the road this car is poised and very easy to drive and I was somewhat worried before climbing in on how it would put the power down , well all I have to say is on puling out of a junction and accelerating very very hard with what I would consider aggressive gear changes the GT2 did not break traction once with no warning lights flashing at all , It put me at ease from then on in to a very enjoyable drive . The price point on this car is spot on , you would have to spend a lot more money for something that comes close to the GT2

I wish I could offer more of a review but my love affair with this car was shortlived and before I knew it i was back at the hotel saying goodbye !

In summary the GT2 is an amazing piece of kit which is as happy on the road as on the track there are going to be 42 very happy people out there very soon !

Clive it was a pleasure to spend the time with you and get you out in this car and I cant wait till the day of handover .

I do think the term Widow Maker is a little unfair, In my mind I am going to call it the Divorce Maker because a sofa and the TV will never feel the same if you have this baby in the Garage !

Does anyone need to buy a car as I have some saving to do ?


 
Welcome Dan (as long as its not Clive logging in anonymously [;)] )

Its great to hear from the other side of the sales counter and the fact that your finding the car as exciting as the prospective owners is great news.

Reading through your list of previous motor experience I can only confirm that you are correct.. you are a lucky lucky boy indeed [8D]

garyw
 
I am full expecting that on our Swiss trip that we get so many amazing 'car & scenery' photos that between us we supply the next 10 years worth of Porsche Post cover pics!! [:D]

Shame we don't have the full 997 range coming with us though. Could have done with some GT3s, Targas and Cabriolets. Oh well, perhaps next time.
 
ORIGINAL: okellyt
Clive
Awsome car, great write up
How long do you have to wait now?
It's getting close to finalising the spec. now for the June build. Only trouble is everyone else seems to have the same idea - Carrera White!
Mind you, it'll still be the only one in our village. [:D]
Regards,
Clive

 
UPDATE

My 997 GT2 spec. goes live on 9th May. I have a meeting with my dealer principal next week to finalise the spec.
I 've wavered backwards and forwards with the details over the last few weeks but the basics remain the same:-
Carrera White and Sports seats.
Any other suggestions would be helpful.
Regards,
Clive

 
Clive, no other suggestions I can offer, as per your avantar the white looks amazing..

garyw
 
Clive - are you going to need something other than semi-slick tyres when you do your Swiss trip?



 
Clive this sounds fantastic, I must admit I am biased as our car is Carrera white with sports seats and looks gorgeous!!
I hope you are going to have an open day so we can all come and drool all over it, I feel as we have all watched your car develop, we should have an opportunity to welcome the Gt2, a bit like a christening!!![:D][:)][:)]
 

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