Have to say, after that review, gene or no gene, you'd have to drive one before committing however good it looks in the flesh. If it can't beat a base 981, new GTS would have it for breakfast? Then there's these too...
Are Spyders Becoming Extinct At OPCs!
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Tilting my jovial hat to one side for a moment, I think that test driver is a bit dubious as in, the right and safe answer is to find fault with the Alfa. Others journo's will no doubt play safe too. It uses Brembos like everyone else. Its lap times aren't too shabby at all, putting serious metal to shame on shorter tracks where extra power on long straights can't take advantage like on the Nurburgring. http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/vairano_handling_course.html http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/balocco.html Caymans were left trailing. Chris Harris was suitably impressed too, including the brakes.
Have a listen to what Harris actually says throughout. I know it goes to show that one can choose to believe what they want to believe, but it was this comprehensive review that made me sit up and take notice that there is capability to go with the looks. Just depends what you're looking for... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnuNv77rB0Q
I really want to like the Jag. They try hard, but to me they still retain that James Bond dinner suit/Private club/Bentley sort of image [:'(]
Whilst the new F Type leaves me cold fortunately for Jaguar the export markets can't get enough of them and production is at full speed so it has a strong appeal if not in its own back yard[&o] http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/11/2015-jaguar-f-type-coupe-at-the-2013-la-auto-show.html
That's what I like best about them. [
] 6, I'd take Auto Express with a pinch of salt but that turbo 4 doesn't excite me and the steering sounds to me like you'd need to drive it to make your own mind up. I like the F type, was looking at one with Tom a few weeks ago and we were invited in to the dealers , made to feel very welcome and offered a test drive. The boot is tiny, not enough space for a weekend away with my Mrs, and it seemed very dear compared to a Boxster. I think the coupe addresses both those issues to some extent.
kitchens
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You were lucky....I went into our local Jag dealers some months ago for a look and as i drove in with the Spyder he obviously knew i was a man of taste and money [ORIGINAL: rob.kellockThat's what I like best about them. [
][:[][] No brochures but would send out ...still waiting .As you said boot is tiny certainty could not get the Kitchen sink in there []
To be honest, it was the warmest welcome I've had at a car dealers for as long as I can remember (save for my OPC of course where I am treated like an old friend). We were on foot and quite scruffy so no preconceptions! Chap had the perfect balance of enthusiasm and professionalism, brochures handed out without asking. Sharp contrast to BMW round the corner - called in with Liz to look at the new i3 as a change from her Abarth as they had one in the showroom. We walked in... "Hello, can I help you?" "Yes, we've come to look at the new electric car as my wife is quite interested in it" "Sure, it's over there just round the corner" "Oh, ok, thanks" Went and had a look, sat in it (filthy interior despite being inside) got ignored for 10 minutes, went to desk with half a dozen suits sat around chatting, got ignored, left.
That was my experience back in the summer when I blasted into my local Jag dealers in the Spyder which he was pleased to say was the first time he had seen one in the flesh I Left with brochure and card to make an appointment for a test drive etc I have zero interest in the car so no test drive ever booked as I know I would fall for the music it makes if nothing else [
] Boot space is 196.2L without the spare wheel option being ticked which would obviously eat into a junk of that tight space -580-90.jpg)
They do sound good for sure. Like you I never took up the offer of a drive, a quick compare of the prices of secondhand XJs compared to Panameras is a sobering exercise too. F type already advertised with 0% finance locally too.
Just had chance to watch that now. Thanks, enjoyed it. Rather more encouraging but I get the impression he was being a bit kind and celebrating the fact that there is an alternative to the Cayman, rather than that it was as good. Steering and engine both flagged up too. As you say, if you have the Alfa gene then "vive le difference"! Wish I knew how to drift like that on other people's tyres!
You only see the ones he gets right [
]Last year Jag brought 2 F-types to one of our club nights. My thoughts at the time.
ORIGINAL: flat6 Have just come home from our region's Porsche Club evening. The local Jaguar dealership brought along 2 F-Types for us to drive. We had the 300PS F-Type and the 380PS F-type S. I drove both. Really nice cars to drive and the automated transmission was very proactive like the new PDK. Touch the throttle and it shifts down, without being in sport mode. It'll be in a low enough gear by the time you've reached as far as you intended to squeeze the thottle, not after you've got there. Seemed to drive OK. Hard to tell on a short test drive and with a Spyder as your daily drive, plus it's been a long time since i've driven a front engined sports car. Seemed fine, but back in the Spyder, having the engine in the right place was telling on the way home as I showed my mate with a 991 how my Spyder is king when it comes to swift direction changes after hard braking and back on the throttle early[8D]. Maybe his 991 could've done better to keep up but the Spyder gave me more confidence and made me the better driver. All credit to the car, not me [
ORIGINAL: flat6It's hard to say. It felt quick enough but then was that because I wasn't used to it and therefore it was less confidence inspiring at speed so felt fast. Then looking at the figures, it's not that fast. The engine revved up sweetly. I think ultimately it will come down to how weight is flung around and that is more neutral in a mid-engined car. I probably won't ever drive another F-Type so won't ever be able to definitively conclude. I was talking to a lady at the club meeting last night. She said it looked like an XK at the front and and alfa at the back. I said you're not the only one to think that. So, whilst it's a good looking car, some may be feeling it isn't very original, especially if they are traditional Jag fans. I find it hard to have an opinion on it because it's not my kind of car. So for me I think it looks great and is a great alternative to an SLK or Audi Cab etc. It's no less exciting than those, I guess, and I think it isn't wise to aim it at Porsche (but then that is probably more the press) because the Porsche is a different kind of car. Also, because is covers both the Boxster and 911 in its positioning across it's models it risks falling short in segments rather than one. But then as I said, I don't think Porsches are it's competing product. It's a good effort though considering it's the first iteration from a blank sheet of paper. If it was the type of car I was in the market for I wouldn't hesitate.ORIGINAL: daro911 Flat6 as you have driven the F Type how does it feel against the 981 [
ORIGINAL: flat6Indeed. The F-type is certainly aimed at a different market, but might excel in that target market. As Harris says, German aluminium must be lighter than British aluminium as they've managed to make an all aluminium chassis 2 seater car 100's of kg heavier than an aluminium/steel hybrid 911[&:] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruFXKEIPTvA&feature=youtu.be Still, this concept has some nice detailing, with the shortened windscreen etc. How they'd apply a roof to the asymmetric rear deck probably hasn't worked out but someone in the market for a AMG Black Edition may find appeal in this concept. Drove an F-type and it was nice for what it was, but it doesn't drive like a Porsche and wouldn't get me to switch.
MillerIanF
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Summed up perfectly a hairdresser's car to match his/her Rado. Buy yourself a Porsche Design Eterna titanium chronograph every time.
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