Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?
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Guys, just back from Spa where there was a GT4 blatting round on the first day. Sounded absolutely fantastic at full chat down the start/finish straight. Just thought you should know! [
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See [link=http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=104645]http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=104645[/link]
Ralph
Ralph
Thanks for the heads-up chaps.
With two closely matched drivers, clearly the GT4 doesn't give too much away to the GT3 - particularly in the corners - but on the longer straights the GT3's power holds sway, as you'd expect. On a shorter, more technical circuit I doubt that there'd be much difference between the two cars.
Sounds as though the GT4 is a comparative bargain for the trackday enthusiast.
Jeff
With two closely matched drivers, clearly the GT4 doesn't give too much away to the GT3 - particularly in the corners - but on the longer straights the GT3's power holds sway, as you'd expect. On a shorter, more technical circuit I doubt that there'd be much difference between the two cars.
Sounds as though the GT4 is a comparative bargain for the trackday enthusiast.
Jeff
that is a newer GT3 also.
the 997.2 is a nice car but now >£100k and of course loads more Bhp and 5 years old.
thing is a GT3 has never been about speed until the 991 GT3, if you want fast for £100k the Macca mp12 can do 0-124mph in 8.5 seconds lol maybe my next road car, I have never seen one on the road to date and that performance is mind blowing, makes GT3/Gt4 look like a ford KA.
ref Gt4 0-124 is 14.5 seconds and the 997.2 GT3 12.3 even the mighty PDK 991 is 11 seconds !
8.5 is in a whole new league of performance to 124mph and I do quite fancy one for a bit.
the McLaren 540C will be the new Bargin super car imo @ £125k
the 997.2 is a nice car but now >£100k and of course loads more Bhp and 5 years old.
thing is a GT3 has never been about speed until the 991 GT3, if you want fast for £100k the Macca mp12 can do 0-124mph in 8.5 seconds lol maybe my next road car, I have never seen one on the road to date and that performance is mind blowing, makes GT3/Gt4 look like a ford KA.
ref Gt4 0-124 is 14.5 seconds and the 997.2 GT3 12.3 even the mighty PDK 991 is 11 seconds !
8.5 is in a whole new league of performance to 124mph and I do quite fancy one for a bit.
the McLaren 540C will be the new Bargin super car imo @ £125k
Thinking about your next car before taking delivery of your GT4....very impressive D.! The MP4-12C's a great car - and British to boot - but you may want to check McLaren's reliability record [electrical gremlins mainly?], although probably not too bad considering it's a low volume, bespoke supercar. Incidentally, I think that garyw traded his 997T for one if you you're looking for advice on the forum.
Are you getting a GT4 drive this month at the PEC?
Jeff
Are you getting a GT4 drive this month at the PEC?
Jeff
always thinking about the next one lol (i'll know in 2 weeks if the GT4 is a keeper or a flipper) seems to be iris 1 issues and software issues. most cars seem to be sorted with upgrades, just buy with warranty, iris 2 and the 616 BHP upgrade. (£3k for an iris 2 update !! ) keep away from the low miles cars as they are not sorted and the early cars. I just fancy a VERY fast car for a while, not just a quick car.
And UK roads every one says they ride like a dream, then click the sports/track mode and you get a whole new car.
I try and find GaryW see what he things of the change. The 540C does seem to be getting a load of pre orders and they have kept away from electric steering
I am a bit board with Porsche atm, i'll try and keep the Spyder and that will do me as a focused car with the mods I have done.
thing is 458 and mp12's were out the question due to part ex rates, but make £15/20k on a GT4 and it pays to run a super car part ex loss, hard not to think about it for the ave person/wage sector.
also both cars are not all about Co2 and log ratio's etc so while PDK style you get to flip the paddels a lot more often than new Porkers where 85mph is 2nd gear !
And UK roads every one says they ride like a dream, then click the sports/track mode and you get a whole new car.
I try and find GaryW see what he things of the change. The 540C does seem to be getting a load of pre orders and they have kept away from electric steering
I am a bit board with Porsche atm, i'll try and keep the Spyder and that will do me as a focused car with the mods I have done.
thing is 458 and mp12's were out the question due to part ex rates, but make £15/20k on a GT4 and it pays to run a super car part ex loss, hard not to think about it for the ave person/wage sector.
also both cars are not all about Co2 and log ratio's etc so while PDK style you get to flip the paddels a lot more often than new Porkers where 85mph is 2nd gear !
Interesting stuff
1. Yes I'm going for PCCB's
2. I also own a 12c ... and yes, the performance is astonishing and very accessible. The car rides wonderfully on B roads on the standard suspension setting (not so differently to a Cayman R). You can then choose Sport or Race.
3. There was a 25000 track mile Time Tailor car at Spa earlier this week that had had no problems --- all the early cars were upgraded free of charge, by 2012 most of the electrical issues were sorted and of course all were substantially upgraded free of charge in 2013/2014. Of course individual cars can have problems -- but the factory is close and they are really looking after their reputation. A real class act.
1. Yes I'm going for PCCB's
2. I also own a 12c ... and yes, the performance is astonishing and very accessible. The car rides wonderfully on B roads on the standard suspension setting (not so differently to a Cayman R). You can then choose Sport or Race.
3. There was a 25000 track mile Time Tailor car at Spa earlier this week that had had no problems --- all the early cars were upgraded free of charge, by 2012 most of the electrical issues were sorted and of course all were substantially upgraded free of charge in 2013/2014. Of course individual cars can have problems -- but the factory is close and they are really looking after their reputation. A real class act.
I am now poised to tweak my spec and revert back to the previously pondered standard platinum wheels and maybe add the yellow steering-wheel stripe. I wish I could find the small list of added options but can't - if anyone could remind me I'd be grateful.
The tracker issue has been aired, thanks. I regularly switch my 964 off with the factory battery immobiliser to preserve charge but I guess with modern electrical systems this cannot be done. It is a very convenient option and saves using battery conditioners that seem to attract bad press. Does anyone know if I can actually spec one?
None of the above are critical and I would not wish to delay my October delivery slot, am I likely to incur a delay if I go through my dealer, ringing the factory seems an odd way of going about things?
The tracker issue has been aired, thanks. I regularly switch my 964 off with the factory battery immobiliser to preserve charge but I guess with modern electrical systems this cannot be done. It is a very convenient option and saves using battery conditioners that seem to attract bad press. Does anyone know if I can actually spec one?
None of the above are critical and I would not wish to delay my October delivery slot, am I likely to incur a delay if I go through my dealer, ringing the factory seems an odd way of going about things?
Ian,
Wise choice with the wheels.
I can't recall what you'd thought of adding but here are some suggestions -
Freebies:
Black rear wing supports
64-litre fuel tank
Smoking package [better than just a hole in the centre console]
Passenger footwell storage net
Aside from the controversial bucket seats, my personal cost options are:
PDLS [excellent night driving aid - I have them on my 987.2]
Auto climate control [saves endless fiddling with the temperature controls]
Cruise control [a must these days for our crowded, speed camera infested roads]
Auto dimming mirrors [should be standard on a car costing £64k+]
Leather interior [with contrasting stitching, lifts the plasticky interior]
Sound Package Plus [included in Audio System CDR Plus if you want DAB radio as well for future proofing]
Floor mats [a ridiculous price but a necessity]
There isn't a problem using a battery conditioner with the 981-series cars. Just invest in a CTEK device; I've used one for the past five years or so without any problems.
I would have thought that you can still spec your car now without impacting the October delivery date, but check with your PC.
Good luck.!
Jeff
Wise choice with the wheels.
I can't recall what you'd thought of adding but here are some suggestions -
Freebies:
Black rear wing supports
64-litre fuel tank
Smoking package [better than just a hole in the centre console]
Passenger footwell storage net
Aside from the controversial bucket seats, my personal cost options are:
PDLS [excellent night driving aid - I have them on my 987.2]
Auto climate control [saves endless fiddling with the temperature controls]
Cruise control [a must these days for our crowded, speed camera infested roads]
Auto dimming mirrors [should be standard on a car costing £64k+]
Leather interior [with contrasting stitching, lifts the plasticky interior]
Sound Package Plus [included in Audio System CDR Plus if you want DAB radio as well for future proofing]
Floor mats [a ridiculous price but a necessity]
There isn't a problem using a battery conditioner with the 981-series cars. Just invest in a CTEK device; I've used one for the past five years or so without any problems.
I would have thought that you can still spec your car now without impacting the October delivery date, but check with your PC.
Good luck.!
Jeff
Thanks Jeff,
I've gone for all the freebies and pretty much all the extras you've listed although I never gave the mats a thought. I wouldn't be without cruise when offered, great for comfort as well as your licence.
I had begun to wonder about the alcantara glove-box cover but it might be vulnerable to 'polishing' so I'll stick with leather.
Good information on the battery conditioner, too.
I'll ring the dealer tomorrow.
Cheers, Ian.
I've gone for all the freebies and pretty much all the extras you've listed although I never gave the mats a thought. I wouldn't be without cruise when offered, great for comfort as well as your licence.
I had begun to wonder about the alcantara glove-box cover but it might be vulnerable to 'polishing' so I'll stick with leather.
Good information on the battery conditioner, too.
I'll ring the dealer tomorrow.
Cheers, Ian.
mats are free. the option is the leather one which don't look that nice imo.
I have changed my order (I hope, as it was locked in, waiting to hear back !!) due to these daft delays and not wanting to wait till never to get it.
If it is locked I don't see a car still End Feb 2016 !!!
alcantara glove-box cover looks great, def do it.
I have changed my order (I hope, as it was locked in, waiting to hear back !!) due to these daft delays and not wanting to wait till never to get it.
If it is locked I don't see a car still End Feb 2016 !!!
alcantara glove-box cover looks great, def do it.
Motorhead said:
Ian, In my experience you wont need to use a battery conditioner much on the 981 as the battery is much higher rating than the 987.2 and hold its charge for weeks. As the electrical system design uses current monitoring the sockets inside the car are not suitable for charging as I posted 2 yrs ago, the conditioner (mines the Porsche unit, a lot cheaper than the CTEC) if used is connected via the battery terminal and post earth underneath the scuttle tray. My dealer supplied me with some crock leads for that purpose.
Chris
chrisH said:
Chris,
I recall the discussion on here when you first purchased your 981.
However, recent posts on the Boxster forum seem to contradict what you're saying [ [link=https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=887370]https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=887370[/link] ], so perhaps the set-up has changed for the later cars [the posters have 2013 and 2015 cars]. Rather confusing information from Porsche.
Jeff
Back on topic. Porsche appears to be making a complete hash of GT4 deliveries, what with varying delays [changing daily?!] if you want the LWBs and custom colours.
I see from the Are Spyders... post that MrD appears to have given up with Mexico Blue. I reckon that he's back to Racing Yellow.
Jeff
I see from the Are Spyders... post that MrD appears to have given up with Mexico Blue. I reckon that he's back to Racing Yellow.
Jeff
Motorhead said:
Jeff,
My OPC ran some tests on this with 981 and 991 and agreed it powers down ALL the sockets after 20 mins. There is a way round it by connecting the charger and then cycling the ignition on/off as it then sees the load as pre-existing and leaves the power on. The main point I was making was that a battery charger (CTEC) is not really necessary on the 981 unless the car is left unused for over 4 weeks, IMO. That's a lot longer than on the 987 cars.
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