Do like the black roof on the green car might start a trend wrapping roofs in black which is reversible.
Cayman GT4: Where are we up to now?
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MrDemon said:
Calm here..
ralphmusic said:
planet-9 OP has posted
"The final culprit was the clutch release lever/fork and its related components. Nice to know they're using the stupid expensive Castrol Optimol grease and there was no need to remove the clutch discs or pressure plates so that stuff is still factory tight. In total it was about 13 hours of labor, which my SA confirmed would be the same if the full clutch was changed (we didn't in this case). Parts cost under warranty was just $300, full clutch kit list price probably around $1k or $750 at your usual online vendors. The kicker was that the flywheel, unique for the GT4, has a list price of $2500, so a full clutch+flywheel job on this car at the dealer ain't cheap (~$6000). In the end this was such a dumb, avoidable issue from the factory, but my dealer's service department stepped up big time and PCNA was very responsive and accommodating that I can probably say I came out ahead with more money in my pocket and a better car."
I note that on P-9 there's a conversation about people securing a car from a dealership by paying a significant premium over list price. One chap was told "we can get you an allocation for $20k over MSRP. We sold another 918 and were given another GT4 as a bonus...".
Perhaps this is common practice in the US but I'm rather surprised that Porsche NA allows this to happen - or maybe the offending dealerships get blacklisted.
Jeff
Perhaps this is common practice in the US but I'm rather surprised that Porsche NA allows this to happen - or maybe the offending dealerships get blacklisted.
Jeff
This was widely discussed on a Pistonheads thread and the owner did not seem to be a general public type of guy although his good friend, who he let drive at the time, might have been a regular guy. Check out eBay for the breakers parts listings soon I guess.
There is of course also the German GT4 which was totalled and burnt out but luckily the occupants were not seriously hurt.
There is of course also the German GT4 which was totalled and burnt out but luckily the occupants were not seriously hurt.
What a mess that car is Ralph. It looks as though it'll need a new bodyshell, front and rear suspension, seats, etc. and the fact that the engine doesn't run (mechanical damage or just a damaged wiring harness/electrical components?) means that any potential purchaser will have a high capital spend if they plan to get the car back on the road.
Apparently the only thing left of the burnt out German GT4 was the roll cage..!
Jeff
Apparently the only thing left of the burnt out German GT4 was the roll cage..!
Jeff
Happy Flipper
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"Mine to sell, never intended keeping it"
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"Mine to sell, never intended keeping it"
15 for sale on Pistonheads all at £100k plus, Porsche really need to sort their act out, if you can afford a 918 or an RS do you really need £20k when there are people out there (me included) who could not get one and would actually drive the thing !!
And Leeds have 3 991 GT3RS for sale POA tonight...
geoff lane said:
Agreed Geoff.
Some way back in this post - and long before the GT4 was announced - I said that it would become a "speculation special" and it's sad to see that my prediction has come true. I seem to recall that MrD wasn't convinced at the time that it would happen but he's sitting pretty now and good to see that he's actually driving the car and hasn't given way to the temptation to sell above purchase price....yet.!
Jeff
First of the 4.0L kits making progress:
DeMan Motorsport's 4.0L GT4 Stage 1 in RED compared to Stock 3.8L GT4 in GREEN. It consists of 4.0L stroker kit, 95mm Throttle body, Headers and appropriate DeMan Motorsport in-house tuning. Results are wheel HP and torque. Cost is PoA or $$$.
DeMan Motorsport's 4.0L GT4 Stage 1 in RED compared to Stock 3.8L GT4 in GREEN. It consists of 4.0L stroker kit, 95mm Throttle body, Headers and appropriate DeMan Motorsport in-house tuning. Results are wheel HP and torque. Cost is PoA or $$$.
geoff lane said:
Totally agree spot on comment's.
Now the panic is over for those who can afford those over inflated GT4 prices 100 k plus looks like those greedy specialist's are not selling !! Only means one thing they will have to reduce there profits for a car circa 65k .
I was in the band who never got one because of a massive cock up but that's another story still on a supposed list but way down.
Would I pay over 100k for a car that's starting circa 65 k eeerrrrr nah its new.
About time us loyal customers and enthusiast s are given a fair deal rather than how big your bank balance is.
Rather tainted the brand for me.
Some cars are quite a way from £65k though ! some up at £85k list if one wants CTS and PCCB. I do really hate how Porsche put the GT4 up at £65k lacking any kit what so ever ! and now all you get are mags and people saying how great it is for £65k when we all paid a lot more anyway.
I could have added a few more bits even at £75k but had to draw the line at a £75k car
even a basic track spec car with NO leather and NO PCM is £71k for CS and buckets !
I still might sell. I want to keep the car but £25k is £25k tax free that's hard to turn down, it's a head heart thing but ruins the buying of it when I think what I could buy with a free £25k. that's not speculating, that's just how it's turned out to be for me now !
put it this way it gets me into a new Exige 350 Sport with the new gear shift mech and less weight for £30k (the 2016 model does look good for a weekend toy) !!! now that is a hard thing to turn down for a £30k outlay imo !
NO one I know has said keep it, even if they are into cars ! it gets me an Exige for net £30k and puts £45k back in my pocket ! it's very hard to say no i'll keep the GT4 !
I could have added a few more bits even at £75k but had to draw the line at a £75k car
even a basic track spec car with NO leather and NO PCM is £71k for CS and buckets !
I still might sell. I want to keep the car but £25k is £25k tax free that's hard to turn down, it's a head heart thing but ruins the buying of it when I think what I could buy with a free £25k. that's not speculating, that's just how it's turned out to be for me now !
put it this way it gets me into a new Exige 350 Sport with the new gear shift mech and less weight for £30k (the 2016 model does look good for a weekend toy) !!! now that is a hard thing to turn down for a £30k outlay imo !
NO one I know has said keep it, even if they are into cars ! it gets me an Exige for net £30k and puts £45k back in my pocket ! it's very hard to say no i'll keep the GT4 !
spyderwhite
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So the gt4 comes in at £75k with a few nice bits but the equivalent 991.1s when new was as much as the flippers prices with only a few more hp but no motorsport parts! Which would you have if after a new Porsche sports car?They are still selling at £100k plus and there are still buyers looking and watching the market so cannot see values dropping much this year unless the economy goes bang!
Imo the gt4 will still be over list 3 years down the line as it was a cheap car to start with relative to the cost of other new Porsche sports cars! A new 991.2s is going to cost you £110k for a reasonable spec! ouch and we have yet to see prices of the 981.2
I have only done 150 miles in my gt4 but imo its a fantastic car and I want to drive it more than I ever did the spyder!
I too am in the low income bracket and £25-30k tax free would be very much welcome which would buy me say a nice 987.2s outright but mines a keeper
Imo the gt4 will still be over list 3 years down the line as it was a cheap car to start with relative to the cost of other new Porsche sports cars! A new 991.2s is going to cost you £110k for a reasonable spec! ouch and we have yet to see prices of the 981.2
I have only done 150 miles in my gt4 but imo its a fantastic car and I want to drive it more than I ever did the spyder!
I too am in the low income bracket and £25-30k tax free would be very much welcome which would buy me say a nice 987.2s outright but mines a keeper
spyderwhite
Member
I am saying keep it! But then I only have one good car and one shopping trolley to drive but you can always review the situation a year down the line and still be in a better financial position than if you bought the lotus and you still have the spyder for those weekend jollys!
spyderwhite said:
spyderwhite, it is indeed a fantastic car. A masterpiece ! It's so dull listening to the 'naysayers'. Porsche make great cars, the GT3's have their following & rightly so. The baby GT4, mid engined, manual and 380bhp is a joy to drive.
Those that don't see the value, moan about the profiteering, or debate 'taking their profit' should do exactly that.
My £71k GT4 is for keeping.
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