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The answer for RMS problems?
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I have received your letters thank you, and one more. I have passed these on to the whole Board and will discuss at next Meeting, on Saturday.
Porsche are scheduled to have an internal discussion tomorrow, so I look forward to the outcome from this, but not holding my breath.
Helen Goff
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Guest
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I think they call it apathy which is probably why Porsche have managed to 'get away with it' for so long. Indeed there is a suggestion that the Japanese have latched on to what we are prepared to put up with and are starting to dum down their standards.
For all that Nic has for the board on Saturday - 3 letters, the results of a survey, observations from Helens better half and at over 4000 hits a subject with a great deal of interest amongst Boxster owners - I would want to ensure a fair hearing at the very least[]
JCB..
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I'll put it towards my next RMS.......[]
Dawn - it's a fairly small minority of Boxster people that frequent this forum hence the low numbers.[8D]Only three letters Nic - surely not?
Judging by some of the spelling and grammar seen here many are better off leaving the top on the pen![&:]
JCB..
Helen Goff
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Judging by some of the spelling and grammar seen here many are better off leaving the top on the pen!
i resemble that remark[&o][&o][&o][]
Guest
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Judging by some of the spelling and grammar seen here many are better off leaving the top on the pen!
Maybe someone ought to leave their claws in !
Seriously though, folks, the written word on this forum does, at times, degenerate into an 'interesting' language variant.
Bring back spell checker - not MS, though, please !
I will now see if I can get any more palimpsest, on which to practice.
Guest
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i resemble that remark
How true !
Diver944
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However if you spend a lot of time reading forums dedicated to the other Porsche models you will find that virtually every model over the years does have an achilles heel and historically it was very rare for Porsche to admit a design flaw and as a consequence owners had to fork out for repairs, often VERY expensive ones. Low mileage cars would not hit the problems until many years out of warranty For example:
964 oil leaks requiring an engine rebuild - cost £1000's
968 pinion bearings failure in gearbox - cost £1000's
944's, 968's and 928 failure of cam chain - cost £1000's
924's chronic hot start problems - cost £ minor
993's creaking windscreens - cost £ minor
In the age of internet forums and email, these problems get talked about a lot quicker than in the 'good old days' so hopefully nowadays the cars are still in warranty and it will 'force' Porsche to do something about it. I am confident it will, you have caught it and publicised it early enough.
If Porsche does not, then I would recommend NOT paying the premium to buy from an OPC or to have your car serviced there. They are a small volume vendor and cannot afford a sudden drop in cashflow.
As for the leaky seal, at the end of day it would be cheaper to have your Independant specialist change it whenever it leaks for a few hundred pounds (as opposed to the OPC £800) and to also save yourself £1000's by buying the car independantly in the first place. I appreciate this is cold comfort for any owner that has had multiple leaks. It does seem to me that the premium paid for buying from Porsche is not reaping any gains and is just not worth the cost.
Guest
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I have left this posting util the last moment as I have been waiting for a response from my solicitor. I only heard from him late this afternoon. I have begun legal proceedings in regard to my 996 RMS & gearbox problems. Suffice to say I am going it alone. In view of this my solicitor has told me not to make any subbmissions as I might damage my case or incriminate myself erronously. So regretfully I must stand down and sit on the side. I will of course keep you all posted on the outcome.
I wish you all the best of luck tommorow.
I am still dying to know the official results of the survey......
Cheers,
Helen Goff
No.1 Poster
dawn lang
Ex Club Member
ORIGINAL: n4das
So what happened at the meeting???
Very very interested too. How did it go Nic?
I have been told that Geoff did have his meeting with his internal technical guy and tried to phone me on Friday afternoon, but since I was driving up to the Club for the Board meeting, I missed the call.
Now , would you believe, Geoff is on holiday, so wont progress this for two weeks, Can you believe the bad timing!
I have sent to Porsche, Mark's summary email and if you agree, your letter also.
They have asked if they can send the survey to the factory (why wait so long to ask), of course they can!
So we are as determined as ever, the quirky editorial in the Post helped to keep the topic bubbling, so lets keep with gently, gently approach and push it along.
Guest
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Can I take it that the matter was debated by the Board on Saturday last? I know the minutes will follow but in the meantime it would be nice to know if there is a 'direction' arising from that meeting.
Also your "I have sent to Porsche, Mark's summary email" is lost on me - is there a copy available to all?
I also agree softly softly approach but as in any good serial we need to know where we are at a given stage.
JCB..
Non-member
Nic,
I see we have not got many letters on this. Not suprising - I always find it easier to type on a forum than sit down and write a letter...
I also hoped our more vocal members would relish the chance to spout off!
If it helps, my worry with RMS is not so much for the current owners of the cars. But with what happens a few years down the road...
Most cars are still fairly new and therefore worth a lot of money, the replacement of the RMS, whilst expensive and inconvenient can usually be justified.
What happens though when the car is as old as todays 924s and 944s? The cost of replacing a £15 part could be appraoching the value of the car by that time! Obviously the resale values will be heavily hit sometime before that...
If it becomes uneconomic to repair the RMS due to the age of the car then Porsches famed "two thirds of all Porsches made are still on the road" is going to take a huge nosedive!
The magazines are already saying this is a problem and an expensive repair - it's not going to be long before everyone knows that the Boxster has a "major" (and certainly expensive) engine fault - even if the fault is incorrectly reported - look at this months editorial by our own esteemed Editor...
Sum up:
This is a problem that is going to get financially bigger (proportionally) as the cars get older. Residual values are going to be hit hard due to the reputation that the RMS is already gathering. Porsche's reputaion for building bulletproof cars is decaying rapidly.
All for the sake of a £15 part they have not got the design right on yet.
Please consider this as something to contribute to the discussion. And thanks for keeping on with this subject - much appreciated!
Mark
JCB..
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