964rsdatabase
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Don't know, Des. Email me with it and i'll let you know. [8|]
964 RSR For Sale ... ?
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Id its built on an original RS Chassis think it is reasonably priced if everything is new and done correctly ....[
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Huh!...seriously.......the car looks fantastic and I prefer the 6 speed box personally...
But, I can't see how sticking arches on and a different engine/ box makes the car worth any more than a straight 964RS and they don't appear to be selling for €120k at present!
I would expect that car to be a great drive with that set up.....
But, I can't see how sticking arches on and a different engine/ box makes the car worth any more than a straight 964RS and they don't appear to be selling for €120k at present!
I would expect that car to be a great drive with that set up.....
Agreed, I would have thought the price would be aligned to a modified version of the original car. Looking at ST / RS / RSR reps on longhoods that have use base 911 S as a starting platform. They seem to be offered at around 75% of an original 2.2 or 2.4S price.
If they were worth the £120 €119k they are currently offered at surely oneof the three would have sold. When you modify the original car, you very rarely expect as in these cases to recoup your conversion / modification costs and the original purchase price.
At these levels you could buy a tired RSR (Fresinger had one recently) - If the RS market wasn't niche enough with original models, this enters a whole new Niche'ness - Surely thse cars should be discussed in the Modified Register![
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Obviously out of touch on 3,8 RS prices .... in reflection it's value would be that of a equivalent unmodified RS, howvere this car has the 3,8 and six speed monkey box which goes well with the 3,8 and not 3,6 ..... so given all the work done, new engine etc I would think as an original RS all be it 3,8 I would put the car nearer £85k which is probably not far off euro 120k ....
Happy to give £85k for €120k, I like this game! []
Looks like 993 varioram inlet rather than 964 derived version... for all we know it could be 3.8 barrels in a 993 3.6 block on a 993C2 box?....Those 993RS 6 speed boxes make all the difference with the ratios, particularly the CS....not cheap though []
]Looks like 993 varioram inlet rather than 964 derived version... for all we know it could be 3.8 barrels in a 993 3.6 block on a 993C2 box?....Those 993RS 6 speed boxes make all the difference with the ratios, particularly the CS....not cheap though [
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Probably right Clubbbyboy .... a dogs dinner, The 993RS Box is very different, from magnesium casing to oil breathers with steel rings and a unique butt plug[]
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It's all in the detail Des.......
e.g. If you look at the front bumper (PU if you must), if you were fitting it on an RS, wouldn't you have filled and smoothed the holes rather than leave headlamp washers in place?
Maybe I'm too picky, but headlamp washers have no place on an RS....keep them for the Turbo's.
e.g. If you look at the front bumper (PU if you must), if you were fitting it on an RS, wouldn't you have filled and smoothed the holes rather than leave headlamp washers in place?
Maybe I'm too picky, but headlamp washers have no place on an RS....keep them for the Turbo's.
You are bang on as usual .... I will do this with Alzen 965 Cup tonite when it arrives[
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Hacki
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When these cars were used (or abused) in the late 90s, everybody replaced a broken front bumper with a used standard part (with holes for the jets), they were available and relatively cheap. But those were the days, when a RS was just a piece of junk to play with in clubsport events. Raceteams used to do the same thing and put plastic plugs into the holes of the headlight washer jets. (That´s what I did when the original front bumper of my car finally died on a curb many years ago.)
Today it´s a different story, and it´s not picky to mention that point. A recently rebuilt RS should not have these jets or the holes with plugs IMHO.
Hacki
Unfortunately it has the 965 front bumper with the offending nipples sticking out!
Tempted to return the car to Maritime Blue with the Jurgen Alzen Cup Livery .... but keep wide body
Put it this way....Alzen modified the car that way, that gives it a certain provenance........it has never been a wide bodied blue cup car.
If you convert it back to original narrow body and find a "non" matching numbers engine,,,,,,wouldn't it have just been cheaper to just buy an authentic cup car?
I appear to have unusual clarity in the crystal ball right now and it seems to show the yellow Alzen cup car offered at a specialist Porsche dealer at a substantially higher price by October!.......Hard to believe I know!! []
If you convert it back to original narrow body and find a "non" matching numbers engine,,,,,,wouldn't it have just been cheaper to just buy an authentic cup car?
I appear to have unusual clarity in the crystal ball right now and it seems to show the yellow Alzen cup car offered at a specialist Porsche dealer at a substantially higher price by October!.......Hard to believe I know!! [
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I think a change back to Maritime will work maybe leave it nice and plain ....[]
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PhilRS
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I would also keep it "as is" and have fun with it on the track, or return it to its original condition, stickers and all and sell it, or admire it in my conservatory (but I would first need to build one, or perhaps buy a house that would suit the car).
Worse thing I ever did in my Porsche ownership was to return my RSR to original '93 season form, stickers and all, and then thinking was I saw it "It does look great but I really don't feel like trashing this beauty queen around a track anymore." I will never repeat this experience again. I still believe that race cars are meant to be driven hard.
Collier (or Collier collection fame) famously said that restoring a race car was akin to rape. I quite like the fact that my cup still has its old stickers on the roll cage and patina everywhere.
Worse thing I ever did in my Porsche ownership was to return my RSR to original '93 season form, stickers and all, and then thinking was I saw it "It does look great but I really don't feel like trashing this beauty queen around a track anymore." I will never repeat this experience again. I still believe that race cars are meant to be driven hard.
Collier (or Collier collection fame) famously said that restoring a race car was akin to rape. I quite like the fact that my cup still has its old stickers on the roll cage and patina everywhere.
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